Where are Xplained demo program sources?

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Grrr--I give up.

 

XMEGA-A3BU Xplained kit.  Works fine.  Connects fine to JTAGICE3.

 

Now I want to start doing stuff.  So, I want to start by examining and maybe modifying the demo code...BUT WHERE IS IT?

 

Software User Guide is app note AVR1934.  There is no associated software on the app notes page(s) at atmel.com.

 

The app note sends me to ASF:

2

AVR1934

8413A-AVR-09/11

2

Modules and services

This demo application is available through the Atmel

®

AVR

®

Software Framework

(ASF), version 2.6.0 or later. It is available at the

Atmel.com AVR Software

Framework

page. The demo application is available as an example project in AVR

Studio 5. This can be accessed by clicking File

New

Example Project, and

selecting “Demo application for XMEGA-A3BU Xplained”.

But 6.2 doesn't have that same File->New options.

 

The linked Framework page doesn't lead me anywhere either:

http://www.atmel.com/tools/AVRSO...

 

 

I give up.  Help!?!

 

 

 

This topic has a solution.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

Last Edited: Fri. Sep 18, 2015 - 02:03 PM
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I've been [poking at this, and it appears that my newly-updated Studio 6.2 SP2, along with newly-updated ASF, doesn't know about ASF in any of the places the documents say it should.  CTRL-SHFT-E; File->New; ...

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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One used to be able to download the code examples from the Atmel website but now they are "helping" user (..to waste time) and hide everything in the ASF examples.
 

Of course I'm stoopid and can't make any sense of the ASF examples, I much preferred the few line of code in the datasheet which clearly explained how to do stuff.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Perhaps like so (in AS6.2):

 

  1. File, New example project
  2. In the left column, select Kit
  3. In the centre tree control, locate the XMEGA-A3BU Xplained node and expand it
  4. Locate the desired example project among the sub-nodes
  5. Proceed as with a "normal" project (giving it a name etc...) I suppose.

 

I stopped at 4, so I can't say this actually works out well in the end. I seem to recall I've done this wayback-then when I was starting to play with the USB devices (of-course I quickly abandoned ASF for LUFA for this).

 

HTH!

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As a fun(?) alternative, you could of-course locate the place where ASF is stored in the installation. For each version of ASF you have installed (yes, could be several..) this is stored as a Git repository. Locate it and do a Git check-out of all or parts of it to another place of your liking. I did a checkout of the complete ASF 3.21 yesterday to locate and look at code for MMC and FatFs. Checked out, the whole of ASF 3.21 is just over 500 MB. The Git repository weighs in at just over 100 MB. The buildmaster at Atmel compresses the repo before shipping it (the Git term is "pack"). Note that the 3.20 repository seems to have the ASF history all the way back to ASF 3.10.1.

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Perhaps like so (in AS6.2):

 

  1. File, New example project
  2. ...

That's the whole point--it does not give me that option.  And the keyboard shortcut doesn't help.  See my reply.

 

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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"it does not give me that option" - it gives it to me. Maybe try reinstalling the Studio?
Alternatively, you can download the standalone ASF archive. The sample applications will be under {mega|xmega|sam0|etc}\applications. For example, xmega\applications\xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo\atxmega256a3bu_xmega_a3bu_xplained\gcc\Makefile.

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I can not think of anything else but the sameol'sameo' , akin to "Have you re-booted?):

* ASF not installed?

* ASF install broken?

* Run the AS6.2 installer again and see if there is an option to "select in" options that you might have opted out of at first installation?

 

If you don't have success with such, let me know what project you're interested in and I could extract it from my ASF repo and send it to you somehow. Might not be from the very latest ASF version, though.. (The latest I have on my disk is from January this year 2015 IIRC.)

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let me know what project you're interested in

 XMEGA-A3BU Xplained kit.

 ...demo code...

... as on the board when received, and  described in the app note.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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You can download the complete set (1.2GB unzipped):

http://www.atmel.com/tools/avrso...

 

Software

Description

Atmel Software Framework 3.27

Atmel Software Framework 3.27
(336 MB, updated September 2015)
Standalone package for megaAVR, AVR XMEGA, AVR UC3 and SAM users for GCC and IAR.

 

or

 

go to: http://asf.atmel.com/docs/latest/

 

select board/device you are interested in (device finds more applications).

 

http://asf.atmel.com/docs/latest...

 

select application:

 

http://asf.atmel.com/docs/latest...

 

has various links:

 

Getting Started Application

Last Edited: Fri. Sep 18, 2015 - 02:48 AM
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I'll poke at it, and thanks much for the effort.  But I just updated ASF today, and then updated Studio.  Wouldn't that have been the same package?!?  Perhaps I just don't know where it is.

 

I still can't find the "demo" program source in the links you gave.  sigh.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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From AS 7.0 beta

 

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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ASF exists in a the Studio 6 installation as a Git repository. If Studio won't let you access it then Git command line tools will. However there is a trick to accessing it. Normally in a Git repository all the data is under a ".git" directory and that's what the Git tools look for but for some insane reason Atmel changed the name. So I seem to remember you need to rename it to be able to explore with Git.

 

(maybe GChapman's linked download is easier in the end?)

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(maybe GChapman's linked download is easier in the end?)

Did you mean jstampfl?

 

I followed down those links, and I have yet to find the source code for the demo program that comes loaded on the XMEGA-A3BU Xplained board, and as described in the app note AVR1934, and also the Getting Started app note.

 

To js and all:  Yes, that would be the place.  But my freshly-updated Studio installation will not let me get there.

 

Re-install Studio?  I suppose.  This is a Windows system after all.  :(  Doesn't make much sense though.

 

If it is parked somewhere in my installed stuff, tell me where...  Perhaps when js or others are on that page, you can get a hint of what the file might be called or the repository name.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Did you mean jstampfl?

Oh sorry, I did. Apologies to all. It's just that jstampl was posting in the style of GChapman ;-)

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Got curious and downloaded AVR1934.pdf. There is a table with a list of services and modules there. Now, let's see what we have in the the full standalone ASF tree.

type xmega\applications\xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo\atxmega256a3bu_xmega_a3bu_xplained\gcc\config.mk

...
CSRCS = \
common/components/display/st7565r/st7565r.c \
common/services/calendar/calendar.c \
common/services/clock/xmega/sysclk.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_c12832_a1z.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_framebuffer.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_generic.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_menu.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_spinctrl.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/gfx_mono_text.c \
common/services/gfx_mono/sysfont.c \
common/services/ioport/xmega/ioport_compat.c \
common/services/sleepmgr/xmega/sleepmgr.c \
common/services/spi/xmega_usart_spi/usart_spi.c \
common/services/usb/class/cdc/device/udi_cdc.c \
common/services/usb/class/cdc/device/udi_cdc_desc.c \
common/services/usb/udc/udc.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/adc_sensors.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/bitmaps.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/cdc.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/date_time.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/keyboard.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/lightsensor.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/main.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/ntc_sensor.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/production_date.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/qtouch/touch.c \
xmega/applications/xmega_a3bu_xplained_demo/timezone.c \
xmega/boards/xmega_a3bu_xplained/init.c \
xmega/drivers/adc/adc.c \
xmega/drivers/adc/xmega_aau/adc_aau.c \
xmega/drivers/nvm/nvm.c \
xmega/drivers/rtc32/rtc32.c \
xmega/drivers/tc/tc.c \
xmega/drivers/usart/usart.c \
xmega/drivers/usb/usb_device.c
...



At the first glance it looks that pretty much everything is there. Except don't see a menu.c. But there is gfx_mode_menu.c...

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Aha!  Why didn't y'all SAY to look in c:\ASF ?!? ;)

 

As my Studio doesn't want me to link to it with File->New, I was poking at \program files\Atmel\Atmel Software Framework\...

 

But indeed:

 

Thanks much.  I needed a sanity check.

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

Last Edited: Fri. Sep 18, 2015 - 02:04 PM
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I set out to ZIP up the demo from my clone of the ASF repo, but I soon started to suspect that the source code is "all over the place" (i.e. some shared code is in shared folders) and analyzing what I needed to cherry-pick became too daunting.

 

So I set out to d/l the standalone ASF to see if I could point you to where the application is. Turns out that the sax players at Atmel has made it harder again to do a simple download. I don't have my Atmel login credentials handy so I tried to do a "Download as Guest". Having entered some John Doe-stuff in the form I clicked next only to be met by "Thank you for your registration. You will be sent a mail. Bla-blah..". I will now temporarily hijack this thread to establish that there are some true stoopids at Atmel. This login-idiocy is not helping their business. With that done let's go back to the problem at hand.

 

I then realized that what I could do was at least to start my AS6.2, create the example project and attach it here. The simplest way to get the code for that specific example over to you..

 

This is from ASF 3.21.0 (early 2015?).

 

Have fun studying it! (Though I suspect that if your ASF install is broken, then you will not be able to build it...)

 

The ZIP is too big to attach here. Please look for a PM from me in the very near future. :-)

 

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We're cross-posting, Lee. FWIW I've sen't you a PM.

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"This login-idiocy" - with noscript, I have to click on "Allow all this page" 4 (FOUR) times before I can log in! It used to be 3 in the past. They added yet another cloudfront.net. Argh!

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...At the first glance it looks that pretty much everything is there. ...

Indeed.  Including a makefile and config.mk.

 

Now, can you GCC gurus tell me how to turn that directory tree into a Studio/GCC project so I can rebuild it?  [I'm such a newbie...]

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Maybe you Luddites should upgrade to AS7.0? devil It only took me half hour.... to find the demo, no reference number to AVR1934 that I can see but the highlighted line seems to tell me it's the correct project??

 

From ASF3.18.0 it's the very last project in the list or #119

 

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Now, can you GCC gurus tell me how to turn that directory tree into a Studio/GCC project so I can rebuild it?

The project in the Zip-file I talked about earlier builds (with three warnings and one informational message). Let me know if I should put it up again at the same place as before.

 


 

In the long run you need to fix your Studio/ASF problem(s?). In my installation I have ASF in a sibling folder to the Studio folder: C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Software Framework . Do you have such/similar folder?

 

No, it wont help if you move your ASF folder to such a position. The standalone does not look like a Git repository (hard to be really sure going on just a screen dump), and it is almost certain that the Studio function to set up a project expects ASF to be a Git repo.

 

To see if you at all have any ASF installed in a place where (I suppose) Studio looks for it, do this:

 

If you have such a sibling folder to the Studio folder, as mentioned above, then go into it. Do you have a folder named with a version number in thee? If so go into it.

 

Now, do you have a folder named "Repository"? If so go into that.

 

Now, a folder named Asf.git ? If so open that one.

 

If you now see a few files, and 5 folders named "hooks", "objects", "info", "branches" and "refs" then that looks like the structure of a Git repo. Since it is there but Studio does not give you the option to open up an example project I speculate that either that repo is broken in some way, or Studios "link to it is broken". Regardless of my speculations, I would try uninstalling ad reinstalling Studio.

 

If you the procedure failed earlier along that "promenade" then ASF seems not to be installed with Studio. Same thing to do probably: Uninstall and reinstall Studio.

 

I'm sure that if Morten comes by there will be much better advice given!

 

Having ASF integrated in Studio will likely make your exploration of it much easier. Studio will do all the nitty-gritty of setting up the project for you. It chews and grumbles for half a minute or so, but then it is there ready to build, all solution/project settings seems to be done. Before you know it you might be wanting to have a look at one of the 128 (!) other example projects that can be set up for your board. It seems like spending the time to fix your Studio/ASF problems will be well worth it.

 

Anyway .. let me know if you want the ZIP file, OK?

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Maybe you Luddites should upgrade to AS7.0? devil It only took me half hour....

And here I was thinking you would be the first to argue, "the older the better". I'll leave it to you to decide if that's about people or software.. ;-)

 

It took me a just a few minutes in AS6, so that's substantial a "regression". I'll leave it to you to decide if you or Studio is to blame.. ;-)

 


BTW, don't you just love it that an ASF example does not build clean straight out of the box. (No, a build with warnings is not a clean build IMO.)

 

The scary one is of-course "may be used uninitialized in this function"..

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I'll just add this before hitting the sack.. On the ASF overview page one can read:

 

Note: ASF in Atmel Studio does not require a specific download. Use Atmel Studio Extension Manager (Tools->Extension Manager) or visit Atmel Gallery to update ASF in Atmel Studio.

Did you try this to get your Studio cooperative re "Example projects", Lee?

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"the older the better"

A one year old Shiraz or a 10+ YO Shiraz?

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Is this what you are looking for?

 

Note there is not one example of using the on board crystal or one demo of using the on board backup battery or one demo of using the RTC32.  Those things are the reason to use this freakin' chip.

 

I managed to get the battery backed up RTC32 running.  I have not gotten the DFLL to use the crystal osc..  If you can figure that out, and can explain it in 25 words or less, you could let me know.  Note, I don't need crystal referenced DFLL but I thought as long as there was that watch crystal on board, I would try it.  I was a sucker.

 

Actually Atmel gave me a copy of the last demo on the list with some patches that seems to do just that.  I had no easy way to measure the frequencies though so I'm not sure.  According to my debugger, the DFLL went ready when hooked up to the crystal oscillator so I guess it works.  I could never get that to happen with my code.   I'll be damned if I'm going to do a study of their freakin' code to figure it out though. 

 

 

Last Edited: Sat. Sep 19, 2015 - 12:08 AM
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steve17 wrote:

Is this what you are looking for?

...

lol and "sigh" -- that is the whole point -- I can't get to that.  See previous posts, including OP.

 

Now, I do have the repository / git stuff, so I need to poke there.

 

Re-install?!?  Just because it is Windows stuff?  Sheesh.  And then do it once more and it will probably work.

 

I took a virgin PC at work, and installed Studio, and I can see the window steve17 and others have me looking for.  So yes, I can poke at it further.

 

I'm home for the weekend but might try some stuff via remote control, and report.

 

=========================

Several more pieces of information:

 

I popped onto another PC at work, that had the latest 6.2 installed.  It has the same symptoms as my computer at work.  Now, why might that be, you might ask?  Theories:

 

1)  We happened to upgrade Studio and ASF in the same order.  Then perhaps poking at extension manager, or reinstall, might clean things up.

 

2)  Both of us already had VisualStudio 2010 installed, so we used the non-"standalone" Studio install and upgrade.  On the virgin PC, I used the "standalone as VisualStudio was not already installed.

 

3)  Both of us have CodeVisionAVR installed.  That installation integrates itself into Studio.  So perhaps that integration wiped out the ASF links.

 

As you see, I have more combinations to explore.  Thanks for reading.  Don't show off your LED clocks.

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Lee, just go into your plug-in manager in Studio and see if ASF is among the installed plugins. If not, the perhaps install it? Or not if you're on a low-bandwidth - since it a big behemoth (0.5 GB?).

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Maybe you're too clever. smiley  Me, I don't know nuttin.  I see I have 3 versions of Studio installed on this Win7 installation.  I don't know nuttin about CodeVision, but I do have Xray vision.  smiley 

I see this in ProgramFiles86/Atmel.

 

 

Every time I start up Studio, this pops up.  I don't check the "Do not show me this anymore." box because I like being annoyed.  smiley

 

 

I don't know what your problem is, but I suspect global warming.

Last Edited: Sat. Sep 19, 2015 - 09:33 AM