When does atmel modify XMEGA document errors?

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Posted by electronic.designer: Sun. Jun 19, 2011 - 02:07 PM
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I am writing a book on XMEGA and atmel documents are the only reference for me. These documents are full of mistakes and errors and I have reported tens of errors to atmel. But errors are still present and there is not any modification from atmel. For example, XMEGA A manual was not updated since 2009 and I don't know when does atmel modify this document.
Isn't any atmel-man present in this forum and does anyone know why atmel does not update the documents?

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Posted by leon_heller: Sun. Jun 19, 2011 - 03:20 PM
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Perhaps they are waiting until they fix the hardware. :)

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Posted by electronic.designer: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 02:04 PM
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I asked the question from atmel support and this is the answer:

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New Xmega data sheets will be available soon. I have no exact date, but we are working on releasing new data sheets this summer which should be a bit update. Thank you for your interests in Atmel products.

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Posted by leon_heller: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 03:19 PM
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Perhaps you should now ask them when the hardware problems will be fixed.

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Posted by electronic.designer: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 03:42 PM
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Good idea. I will do it.

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Posted by JohanEkdahl: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 04:00 PM
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Leon wrote:
Perhaps you should now ask them when the hardware problems will be fixed.

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Good idea. I will do it.

That is some truly cruel humor, Leon...

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Posted by leon_heller: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 04:27 PM
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I got a couple of ATxmega32A4 chips a long time ago, and started designing a PCB. Atmel didn't seem interested in fixing the bugs so I never finished it off.

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Posted by rjbishop: Mon. Jun 20, 2011 - 10:45 PM
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Actually, it seems many are giving the xmega series a bad name. Our own ganzziani has had a great deal of success with the ATxmega32A4 in his XProtoLab. Gosh, it does precise ADC, DMA transfers, multiple timers, AWG using DMA, many faceted triggers (i.e. rising/falling triggers), protocol sniffing, 115k uart transfers, EEPROM storage. Seems like the "bugs" have not had any affect on the success of this product! :roll: :roll:

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Posted by electronic.designer: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 07:18 AM
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Good news from atmel support:

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Engineering samples of the new silicon revision should be available at the same time as the new datasheets.

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Posted by leon_heller: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 08:24 AM
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rjbishop wrote:
Actually, it seems many are giving the xmega series a bad name. Our own ganzziani has had a great deal of success with the ATxmega32A4 in his XProtoLab. Gosh, it does precise ADC, DMA transfers, multiple timers, AWG using DMA, many faceted triggers (i.e. rising/falling triggers), protocol sniffing, 115k uart transfers, EEPROM storage. Seems like the "bugs" have not had any affect on the success of this product! :roll: :roll:

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It doesn't appear to have been all that popular, though. Many other users on this forum have avoided it like the plague.

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Posted by clawson: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 08:32 AM
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Good news from atmel support:

It would be better news if it included a date (even just a year!)

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Posted by electronic.designer: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 08:37 AM
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clawson wrote:

It would be better news if it included a date (even just a year!)

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New Xmega data sheets will be available soon. I have no exact date, but we are working on releasing new data sheets this summer which should be a bit update.

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Posted by leon_heller: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 08:44 AM
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How many years has it taken?

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Posted by clawson: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 09:49 AM
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this summer

What a coincidence - "Summer" actually starts today in fact - does that mean they are available from today onwards? :-)

The Equinox is on September 23rd - so I guess the clock's running...

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Posted by leon_heller: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 10:35 AM
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Isn't summer June, July and August? On that basis, they have until the end of August to sort things out.

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Posted by clawson: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 11:03 AM
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Isn't summer June, July and August?

You sound almost as bad as my wife (in Ireland Summer is literally just May, June and July).

In the UK and a lot of the world (though see exceptions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum... ) it's from the Summer Solstice until the Autumnal Equinox. So it is June 21st to September 23rd this year.

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Posted by leon_heller: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 12:33 PM
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I used the meteorological definition. It might be different in Norway, of course.

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Posted by frankvh: Tue. Jun 21, 2011 - 08:56 PM
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That's the first hint I've heard from Atmel in a couple of years that revised Xmega silicon might actually become real. Not that I'm holding my breath, but it'd be great if it really happened this year.

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Posted by GordonFreeman: Wed. Jun 22, 2011 - 03:25 PM
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Interesting... I wonder how many new bugs they will introduce.

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Posted by bobgardner: Thu. Jun 23, 2011 - 04:02 AM
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What a bunch of 'glass is half empty' worriers. What we need to do in the mean time is write a comprehensive Test Suite for all the Xmega features that are fixed/improved to demonstrate the new improved proper operation.

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