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Guys,

I designed a set SOIC-adapters for use on proto boards (like Vero-board) and would like your feedback on these.
Here is the webpage: http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...

I am not commercially attached to elecfreaks.com but cooperate with them on these (FYI: it started with the FlowerPads; new developments are in testphase and will be evaluated soon)

Nard

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Nard - I think that's an excellent alternative to the standard breakout boards that take up tons of board space. Nice idea!

edit: It seems like you could pretty easily drop a footprint for a 2 row header on there as well. So that you could install the breakout board horizontally or vertically, based on space constraints.

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nleahcim wrote:
It seems like you could pretty easily drop a footprint for a 2 row header on there as well. So that you could install the breakout board horizontally or vertically, based on space constraints.

Would be nice. Trying to think of a way to do that without a short between pads at both sides of the board. I'll give it some more thought.

edit: added picture

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Hi Nard,

Nice design.

I can recall some small UHF transmitter and transceiver modules that were small circuit boards with pins sticking out of the edge, so that the boards were perpendicular to the main PCB.

I think I had some Basic Stamp II modules in a similar format.

Nice Job!

JC

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I can recall some small UHF transmitter and transceiver modules that were small circuit boards with pins sticking out of the edge, so that the boards were perpendicular to the main PCB.

I bought a pile of them from Sparkfun, and from another company for around $1.95 each.

315-433mhz bands. 4800bps. Work pretty good.

Nard,
What is the purpose of the row on the top of the board with the gap from it to the pins? Decoupling? I like the idea of going vertical to save board space. For me, I would solder a dual row right angle pins to solder the unit to a protoboard as the height could be an issue during a field test.

I like the idea. I WANT some!!!!!

Are these going to be available soon?

Jim

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What is the purpose of the row on the top of the board with the gap from it to the pins? Decoupling?

Those are power-bars, Jim. And two decoupling caps are on the other side.
It is on the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...
See attached snapshot. It's too easy to miss. Will fix that.

I will ponder over the flatmount.

Elecfreaks will do a testrun on the SOIC32Wide, the vertical mount and the flat version I posted earlier here: https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...
Most Chinese factories are closed now (NewYear) but I expect them to be available in less than 2 weeks.

Thanks guys, for the feedback

Nard

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Two more questions....

1) Are you taking pre-release orders?

2) How much will the limited edition signed "NardPaks" cost? ;)

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

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"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

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Nard,

nice design,
I miss 1 board though, that is the vertical to horizontal converter.
It is very straigth forward, but then you can really convert an SOIC to a DIP and use it on a bread board...

I also like answers on the questions Jim asked.....
I have some SOIC chips that I would like to use on a bread board :)

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jgmdesign wrote:
Two more questions....

1) Are you taking pre-release orders?

2) How much will the limited edition signed "NardPaks" cost? ;)

Jim


1. I will ask elecfreaks.com
I don't run a business, they do. We "just" cooperate
2. The adapters may carry the name Aplomb-boards: that's my domain and means "perpendicular" in French
I don't know the price. Will ask.

Btw, I updated the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...

meslomp wrote:

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Nard,

nice design,
I miss 1 board though, that is the vertical to horizontal converter.
It is very straigth forward, but then you can really convert an SOIC to a DIP and use it on a bread board...

I also like answers on the questions Jim asked.....
I have some SOIC chips that I would like to use on a bread board :)

I added a strip, see the bottom of the webpage. Is that what you mean ?

Nard

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For the flatmount: is a header like this an option ?
I am still looking for a better solution.

Edit: proposal posted @ bottom of http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...

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SOIC adapter price will be $ 1.50
Due to Chinese Newyear (factory closed to Jan31) and shipping (7 days Hongkong Post): a month from now to get the adapter on your desk. But this leadtime also means that improvements can be implemented BEFORE the first run. So keep suggestions coming and keep an eye on the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S... as I will keep updating.

Nard

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Suggestion:

A double-stacked adapter where you can solder a TQFP on one, solder headers that route half the pins to a second board sitting on top as a sandwich, and plug the whole thing in your prototype board.

I can do a rough layout for you if you like, for FREE! (will accept demo board and adapters as reward... :)

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I am not in control of demo boards and adapters.
But feel free to send your design to services@elecfreaks.com
( Checkout their website at http://www.elecfreaks.com )

Nard

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Guys,

How about the variant as attached in case you need a flatmount ?

More info here: http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...
Scroll down to the end

Nard

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Not a bad idea!

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

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Today I received the samples of the Aplomb*) SOIC32W adapter and put a AT90PWM3B-16SU on for the test. Pictures are a bit dark, but I freaked**) the adapters so there was no second chance for a picture of a normal used SOIC32W adapter ;)
As compensation I will also post the freaked*) version on my webpage about the Aplomb adapters

What also came in is the testrun of an improved FlowerPad design with a SOIC32W on it: that is discussed here: https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

*) Aplomb means perpendicular in French. So a proper name IMO. No, it's not coincidental: it is my domain name too.
**) freaking means here: use something in a different manner than it's supposed to be. So hacking in fact, as in HackAday. But the word "hacking" is also used for illegal actions; therefore my choice for "freaking"
I tweaked in some decoupling capacitors and a crystal. I will update my webpage about the Aplomb adapters soon.

The breadboard adapter strip (another new product) is being manufactured now and may even be on it's way to my house. I expect them soon. Then I will put it on a breadboard and make it PWM a bit ;) And will post a picture of course.

I don't run a business and am not in control of samples: contact services@elecfreaks.com for a sample request or an order. Their website is http://www.elecfreaks.com
It's great to cooperate with these guys: we have a good understanding, in spite of the double language barrier. And they are willing to invest in development of products we want and need. So your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

Nard

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*) Aplomb means perpendicular in French. So a proper name IMO. No, it's not coincidental: it is my domain name too.
**) freaking means here: use something in a different manner than it's supposed to be. So hacking in fact, as in HackAday. But the word "hacking" is also used for illegal actions; therefore my choice for "freaking"

Sorry to burst the bubble my friend but "Aplomb" actually means stability in french, or inner strength, self-confidence, etc... "À plomb" really means straight vertical, coming from the old construction tools where you would suspend a lead bearing from the second story of a building to get a reference vertical level.

Also Freaking (or phreaking) was illegal before the term "hacking" was coined... ;)

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French is not my native language so I relied on the dictionary. What do you think ? Is it a proper name ?
Did you grow up with both French and English ?

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Also Freaking (or phreaking) was illegal before the term "hacking" was coined... ;)
We are here amongst fellow freaks. Not fellow-hackers ;)

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Hey Nard,
After looking at teh board I am assuming that you are sticking to the concept of the device only being used on vero.vector board only. That adapter won't work on a breadboard unfortunately

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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Plons wrote:
French is not my native language so I relied on the dictionary. What do you think ? Is it a proper name ?
Did you grow up with both French and English ?

My primary language is French... Sure it's not a bad name, just doesn't mean what you thought it does. :)

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jgmdesign wrote:
Hey Nard,
After looking at teh board I am assuming that you are sticking to the concept of the device only being used on vero.vector board only. That adapter won't work on a breadboard unfortunately

No Jim. I didn't forget it. You missed this in my message:

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The breadboard adapter strip (another new product) is being manufactured now and may even be on it's way to my house. I expect them soon. Then I will put it on a breadboard and make it PWM a bit ;) And will post a picture of course.

The advantage of a separate breadboard adapter is that you use low cost headers for every adapter you make, and only use the (more expensive) machined headers for the breadboard adapter strip.
See http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S... and scroll a bit down.
(I still have to find out how to put in Anchor in with the editor I am using now: Hexagora DHE . Then it's simpler to point at a specific place on a webpage)

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I stand corrected!!! :)

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB, RSLogix user

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jgmdesign wrote:
I stand corrected!!! :)
À plomb I presume ...

Ross McKenzie, Melbourne Australia

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Very clever, Ross :)

Had a bit of a fight to get the new page online, but here it is : http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC_2.htm#
My teflon memory forces me to make more and more notes on paper .... so many papers ... that I can't find it when I need it. Squirrel ...

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Update:

TQFP adapters for
- TQFP32A or TQFP44A
- TQFP44A or TQFP64A
both 0.8mm pitch
and
- TQFP48 or TQFP64 (with 0.5mm pitch)

will be soon available at Elecfreaks
And "soon" is 2 weeks from now.

Preview: http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/S...

Also see https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

Now these adapters become available I can make my move into the Xmega's :)
(those were my drive for designing these adapters and I am pleased that Elecfreaks will make them available for all of us)

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jgmdesign wrote:
Hey Nard,
After looking at teh board I am assuming that you are sticking to the concept of the device only being used on vero.vector board only. That adapter won't work on a breadboard unfortunately

seems easy to amke an adapter for that
take a IC socket and bend the pins of the adapter board outwards. solder them to the IC socket and done

ow and nice board nard