Programmer/debugger suggestions.

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Hi All,

I am considering purchasing a programmer/debugger. I would like to support the mega, xmega and avr32 so really I would like something that targets ISP/JTAG/PDI and debugWIRE would be nice. I do not see much use for TPI, PP, HVSP...

So in my searches I came across two candidates:
The AVR Dragon and the avrvi AVR JTAG ICE MKII clone. (the real Atmel version is way too expensive)

The Dragon seems like it would be perfect except the 32k code size limitation. I read recently that AVRStudio 4.18 removed the limitation from the the Dragon. Does the limitation [still] exist in avrdude and/or avarice?

Any suggestions on which one which one would be a better programmer and why?

Thanks,
Sam

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Clones: Asking for trouble.

AVRI: Recently accused by another cloner of cloning their clones.

Dragon: 32k limit recently removed. Also, the second HW version is supposed to be more robust, the first one is/wasn't liked much.

Original JTAGICE mkII: Yes

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.

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the real Atmel version is way too expensive)
Really? Even after the clone doesn't work and you have no support? Anyway recent threads have JTAG ICE MKII at half price.

The Dragon has no 32K limits AFAIK anymore (Studio 4.18 ) and can work with Xmegas too. DOn't know about avr32.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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I just noticed that the Dragon does not appear to have official support for the avr32 line.

If I can find a ICE MKII for half price that would be the way for me to go. I do $150, but $300 is out of my budget.

Also I am not saying $300 is an unfair price, but I am currently not authorized to spend that much and I trying to find the best bang for the buck. If I can not get the ICEMKII for half price I may to have to go with the clone.

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And what good is the clone if it doesn't work?

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.

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John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Wow, I couldn't find that even knowing it was sold by arrow. Just to be sure... this is functionally identical to the "regular" ICEMKII, just not RoHS compliant correct? Lead... it never hurt anyone.

Seems ideal.

Thanks,
Sam

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Ordered.

I just have to say... I love that AVR development is so well supported in Linux. I have been trying to figure out MSP430 for an ultra low-power application I am working on. It seems borderline impossible to find information/tools/etc to work on those under Linux.

Just my little rant/praise. Thank you for your help.

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swinchen wrote:
It seems borderline impossible to find information/tools/etc to work on those under Linux.

Eeee?

http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/

JW

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wek wrote:
swinchen wrote:
It seems borderline impossible to find information/tools/etc to work on those under Linux.

Eeee?

http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/

JW

Oh don't get me wrong, I can compile code no problem... JTAG is a nightmare though.