MPLAB® ICE 4

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Sun. Jan 30, 2022 - 01:02 AM
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It was looking interesting until I got to the price. 

#1 Hardware Problem? https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/...

#2 Hardware Problem? Read AVR042.

#3 All grounds are not created equal

#4 Have you proved your chip is running at xxMHz?

#5 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand."

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Brian Fairchild wrote:
I got to the price. 

 

If it's only about AVRs at this point my recommendation for a full-fledged programmer / debugger simply to use the nEDBG interface of a Curiosity Nano board (~ 16 €) cheeky

 

Belonging to ICE4 the new MPLAB-X V6:

https://www.microchip.com/en-us/tools-resources/develop/mplab-x-ide

Last Edited: Tue. Jan 4, 2022 - 07:50 AM
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Microchip.com wrote:
MPLAB ICE 4 in-circuit emulator connects to the target using a high-speed 40-pin rugged edge rate cable assembly

What the .... ?

 

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It's not small.

 

 

#1 Hardware Problem? https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/...

#2 Hardware Problem? Read AVR042.

#3 All grounds are not created equal

#4 Have you proved your chip is running at xxMHz?

#5 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand."

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MPLAB REAL ICE is EOL though a relative few EOL distributors have stock.

  • PIC32 instruction trace
  • supply vs demand

The ones at Microchip Technology are keen on amortization.

 

MPLAB REAL ICE IN-CIRCUIT EMULATOR | Microchip Technology

DV244005 Microchip - Microprocessors - Distributors, Price Comparison, and Datasheets | Octopart component search (540USD)

 

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Our fav chip maker stock | AVR Freaks

 

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Tue. Jan 4, 2022 - 03:13 PM
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Atmel AVR ONE! (AVR32 instruction trace) have a 38-pin Mictor (bench logic analyzers)

Similar for PIC32 (MIPS) instruction trace.

 

Auxiliary (AUX) Physical (including JTAG) | AVR ONE!

Using the JTAG Mictor Connector | AVR ONE!

MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator User's Guide

[bottom of page 64]

5.6 Instruction Trace for PIC32M MCUs

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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Stef45 wrote:
If it's only about AVRs at this point my recommendation for a full-fledged programmer / debugger simply to use the nEDBG interface of a Curiosity Nano board (~ 16 €)

The MPLAB® ICE 4 certainly gives you a lot more features - but whether that's really worth 100 times surprise the price is another question ...

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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awneil wrote:
The MPLAB® ICE 4 certainly gives you a lot more features - but whether that's really worth 100 times surprise the price is another question

 

Send me one and I'll answer your question!! cheeky

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gchapman wrote:

Money is relative.

 

Money is absolute; value is relative. wink

#1 Hardware Problem? https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/...

#2 Hardware Problem? Read AVR042.

#3 All grounds are not created equal

#4 Have you proved your chip is running at xxMHz?

#5 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand."

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They're definitely not aiming for the hobbyist market.

Happy Trails,

Mike

JaxCoder.com

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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press release :

New In-Circuit Emulator (ICE) Boosts Productivity with Feature-Rich Programming and Debugging | Microchip Technology

Chandler, Arizona

January 4, 2022

Microchip’s MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator is a full emulation, programming and debugging system featuring wireless connectivity, power debugging and real-time code profiling using trace

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Ethernet connectivity provides remote debugging for applications which are monitored over long distance. Further, Wi-Fi connectivity is excellent for providing isolation from environmental conditions such as high-voltage motor control applications or floating systems with no ground loop.

MPLAB ICE 4’s powerful hardware integrates with MPLAB X CI/CD setup over Ethernet creating an effective combination for hardware in the loop. Designers can use the CI/CD wizard to set up Jenkins and Docker on the latest version of MPLAB X IDE v6.00.

It is equipped with power debugging capabilities to monitor how power consumption correlates to code using MPLAB Data Visualizer. Additionally, embedded engineers can extract more from the code by using two independent current-sensing channels with varying resolutions for measuring and optimizing the power consumption of a design.

Engineers can reduce development time using MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator’s advanced features supporting many widely used instrumentation and instruction trace capabilities. ICE 4’s several debug and programming interfaces and options for target connections using adapter boards further help to reduce development time.

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For more information about the MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator visit Microchip’s website.

Pricing and Availability

The MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator DV244140 is available today for $1,799 and includes one accessory kit. Additional accessory kits are available separately. Microchip’s MPLAB ICE 4 Accessory Kit AC244140 is available for $350. To purchase products mentioned here, visit our purchasing portal or contact a Microchip authorized distributor. For additional information, contact any Microchip sales representative or authorized worldwide distributor.

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40-pin connector briefly described at 2:19 in Overview of the MPLAB® ICE 4 - YouTube (8m36s, 6:20 for trace)

 

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Target Connection Pinout | MPLAB ICE 4 In-Circuit Emulator User's Guide

 

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Sun. Jan 30, 2022 - 01:00 AM