I want to shift logic level of AVR output which is 0-5V to be -5 to 5 V logic. Any suggestion?
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Pass the signal into an inverter chip, then into half of a MAX232 ? That would give you about -7v to +7v as a starting point.
Maybe clamp the output to 5v using a resistor / zener diode combinations ? Not sure how the MAX232 would feel about this though...
Or see if the device is +10/-10 V tolerant. What are you using it for?
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well, I think its gonna cost to much if i used 232 (so many capacitor there), because there are 10 data to be shifted.
I need this shifting to drive the IGBT. My IGBT driver need plus minus input.
I am thinking about using OpAmp comparator but I am not sure about the OpAmp type I'll use and how to configure it.
Hmm, there are multichannel versions of MAX232 if it helps.
Thanks for all your replies. I've found the solution.
I was using transistor (common emitter mode -> NPN Transistor) before but it wasn't work. After examining, its because the base resistor is to high. After I replace that resistor to the small one then its work. The only problem now is the logic being inverted. Well its simple matter I'll use the inverter before the transistor. Its better solution than use a comparator. The transient of transistor is better than comparator (I use LM311).
Thanks once again.
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If you hava a negative supply, then you can leave of the MAX232 caps.
If you DON'T have a negative supply then the op-amp or comparator won't work.
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THere are also some Maxim MAX232 lookalikes which don't need external capacitors.... MAX202 if I recall correctly.
The only problem now is the logic being inverted. Well its simple matter I'll use the inverter before the transistor.
Exactly, with MAX232 I don't need negative power supply. About MAX202, I never heard that before and I'm not sure about availibility of this component in my rural town. Beside I have negative power supply, so I prefer using single transistor and two resistor.
About PNP transistor, I don't know how to arrange this transistor. Kevin, would you give some drawing how to use PNP transistor?
ps; I have made some correction on my Jul 14, 2007 - 04:25 PM post (in blue)
Invert your output from the micro. Rather than doing it hardware, do it in software.
Hmm, thats a good one but I have to reverse my logical thinking, sometimes it's make me confuse.
Kevin, would you give some drawing how to use PNP transistor?
As a brief summary of the PDF in terms of your proposed inverter need, rather than switching ground with a NPN transistor, you can switch the positive voltage with a PNP transistor where a logic 0 at the base causes the transistor to conduct and a logic 1 at the base turns off the transistor.
Emitter of PNP transistor to VCC, resistor (about 2K) from base to processor output, 1K resistor from base of transistor to VCC, 2K (or so) resistor from collector of PNP transistor to -5 volts.
It's a resistive pulldown, so it's going to have a slow +5 to -5 volt transition, but a rapid -5 to +5 volt transition.
Smaller the collector resistor, the faster the risetime, but the smaller the base resistor needed.
There might be some bipolar level translators out there, not sure. Op amps would be ok, but you'd possibly have the same kind of rise and fall time problems.
And to make the list of suggestions even longer: have a look at the CD4051/52/53.
Vdd to +5V
Vss to Gnd
Vee to -5V
And from there on you can make it inverting, non-inverting etc
Very low-cost, push-pull output and flexible
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