little wire - need help getting real bootloader

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I do know this hardware is ancient, but I like to use it and need help getting started.

I also know that majority of  references / links are dead , so I do not need another references to them.

I have WORKING link to github , however I do not know how to roll  / build / configure / make my own working copy of bootloader. 

 

Yes, I can power up my "little wire" - next I need to download working bootloader.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

PS

If you have to ask "what is little wire?"  I am in wrong forum and I am sorry. 

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Seeed Studios says that a bootloader file is "included". It is a Tiny85. Presumably, the bootloader file should tell you something about how to install it!

 

Jim

 

Until Black Lives Matter, we do not have "All Lives Matter"!

 

 

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anneranch wrote:
I have WORKING link to github , however I do not know how to roll  / build / configure / make my own working copy of bootloader. 
Would have been good if you gave the link ;-) But I assume you mean this:

 

https://github.com/littlewire/Li...

actually I'm not sure how "firmware" differs from "software":

https://github.com/littlewire/Li...

 

As the only "build" file there is "Makefile" then the idea would be to clone this repo and then simply cd to that directory and "make" and it should build.

 

But do you really need to build it yourself? This:

 

https://littlewire.github.io/dow...

 

seems to suggest there are prebuilt binaries for the tiny85 so unless you need to change something don't you just download a pre-built .hex file?

Last Edited: Wed. Jul 21, 2021 - 09:40 AM
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Your comment is not sensible:

but I like to use it and need help getting started.

 Why do you need help getting started if you are already happy using it? 

When in the dark remember-the future looks brighter than ever.   I look forward to being able to predict the future!

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Welcome to AVRFreaks!

 

anneranch wrote:
If you have to ask "what is little wire?"  I am in wrong forum and I am sorry. 

You could be correct.   When asking questions on a public forum, it is always best to provide info on the overall project, provide source or links to source so others know what it is your talking about.

Good luck with your project!

 

Jim

 

 

(Possum Lodge oath) Quando omni flunkus, moritati.

"I thought growing old would take longer"

 

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avrcandies wrote:

Your comment is not sensible:

but I like to use it and need help getting started.

 Why do you need help getting started if you are already happy using it? 

I think that sentence should read...

 

but I would like to use it and need help getting started.

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Hello Jim,

I did venture , again , into the maze of links and references about little wire .

Ended up where I started from , but this time scrolled all the way to the last page to find reference to "improved " bootloader.

 

Will give it a shot

 

http://littlewire.github.io/

PS I just want to use it to test Bluetooth devices. For now.

 

73 Vaclav AA7EJ

 

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anneranch wrote:
PS I just want to use it to test Bluetooth devices. For now.
How does it help you do that? As far as I can see it's a "fake USB" stack (so a bit like V-USB) then over some kind of USB link setup that way there appears to be some kind of protocol that lets a PC program "control" various peripherals in the AVR. So how does all this complexity actually help in testing BlueTooth modules ??

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anneranch wrote:
PS I just want to use it to test Bluetooth devices. For now.

wouldn't an Arduino be the logical choice for that?  If I google Arduino and Bluetooth, I see 34k hits!

 

 

(Possum Lodge oath) Quando omni flunkus, moritati.

"I thought growing old would take longer"

 

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I do not get your position.

I asked for help boot loading the device and you changed the thread asking  why I want to use it to test bluetooth.

It really does not help me , and it smells of hijacking... this is not Arduino thread.

 

If you really need to know - I ditched the "educational toy " long time ago - not worth the efforts.

It really does not matter to me if there are millions of users and u-tube "articles" about it. 

 

Have a swell day and mind your own business in the future.

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I did not read ALL replies, but after I did I am withdrawing my question.

Definitely wrong forum . my apology.

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No need to leave angry!  Following the links above, here is the bootloader referenced and recommended by the github poster.

https://github.com/micronucleus/...

 

Jim

PS:  a callsign search for AA7EJ comes back not valid  callsign validated!

 

 

(Possum Lodge oath) Quando omni flunkus, moritati.

"I thought growing old would take longer"

 

Last Edited: Wed. Jul 21, 2021 - 07:53 PM
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Yes, that is the most up to date and easy to follow site.

 

I am not angry, just tired of folk who cannot read and follow instructions.

 

PS

Did you try to find me on qrz.com ? I ain't there. One "net control operator" refused to let me in the net because

I was a pirate - because I am not on qrz database.  Do you still think I get angry for piddly reasons?

Way too many on them...

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anneranch wrote:

I asked for help boot loading the device and you changed the thread asking  why I want to use it to test bluetooth.

It really does not help me , and it smells of hijacking

 

Welcome to AvrFreaks where you get answers to questions you don't ask and questions to why you're doing something. Good luck with your project

 

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anneranch wrote:
Do you still think I get angry for piddly reasons?

No, but of the 5 posts, four have contained what appears to have an attitude. 

When we ask questions, it's a way for us to get to know you, what your experience is, skill level, etc. 

No one has highjacked the thread, you mentioned bluetooth, how that fits into littlewire, no one here knows, so some context would be helpful. 

As professional programmers, we often use Arduinos for getting up to speed quickly on a new device interface, as just about any thing that can be connected to an AVR has been done with Arduino, and for a pro, getting up to speed on a new device puts money in our pocket.  Arduino's are cheap, easy to use prototyping platforms, one is not required to use the arduino IDE, it is only a tool, just one more in the tool box, nothing more.

So, if you would please, start over and let us know more about you, and provide some context to help us understand what you want to accomplish, that will help guide the tread in a productive direction.

 

73

Jim

 

 

(Possum Lodge oath) Quando omni flunkus, moritati.

"I thought growing old would take longer"

 

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W4GNS. wrote:

anneranch wrote:

Welcome to AvrFreaks where you get answers to questions you don't ask and questions to why you're doing something. Good luck with your project

 

I am not a professional programmer, met a few and I just call them "coders" ,but I had good paying jobs actually DOING customer service. Never in my entire paying carrier I blamed the "problem" on customer , not even when it was obvious whose to "blame". 

I recall a "broken" system of company which was building the Alaska pipeline. They put an air conditioner drain RIGHT  above  the system and it leaked big time - right  into the switching equipment.  Being subject to "regular" power failures it also did not operate during power outage as long as expected - running from batteries. Found out - by just looking at the "charging " A meters that 3 phase charger  run on SINGLE phase. 

 

Yes, I do have an attitude - I cannot stand people who regularly  blame the customer and get away with that attitude , especially when they claim to be professionals. 

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