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Well, the AVR link comes with that's what I'm working on - an AVR project.

But for those that use IVEX's WinDraft/WinBoard, you probably know they closed up shop last year.

What you might not know is that they are really still around - as PCB123 (http://www.pcb123.com).

What's different is that it looks like the software is tied to PCBExpress now and doesn't generate standalone Gerber files like it used to. It also looks like pin limits are gone, the component chooser section now (finally?) has dimensions visible, and it's been re-worked extensively. I haven't fired it up yet, but it looks like it's much more feature-rich than the WinDraft/WinBoard packages were.

I was looking at the board assembly services at PCBExpress and saw the link to PCB123. Looked at that and it seemed *very* familiar but didn't make sense as to why IVEX wouldn't just issue their software under their own name. I called them and confirmed - IVEX is PCB123.

Anyway, just FYI.

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I don't suppose they fixed the gerber file output that was always mirrored on the Y-axis did they? After reading your post again, you say they don't genereate gerbers period? What output are you suppose to use for PCB fabrication?

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Hi,

Hmmm, that is interesting (referring to the original post). About a year or so ago (may have been longer than that) I tried the PCB123 free software. I liked it a lot but I didn't like being tied to one vendor. Upon the advice of a fellow freak I started searching around the PCB123 files with a hex editor to see if I could figure out whose software PCB123 was licensing. I found a reference to SuperCAD which is a Mental Automation product (www.mentala.com). (or so I thought at the time)

I bought SuperCAD but had too many problems with it and had to get my credit card company to give me a refund (because the people at Mental Automation would not return my emails when I requested a refund).

I have been getting the emails from PCB123 announcing changes and so forth but have not tried PCB123 because I have been so happy with the ExpressPCB software. Out of curiosity I might have to look at the PCB123 software now to see if it looks different.

The thing that really bugged me about the SuperCAD software was that it had bugs that the PCB123 software didn't. My thought at the time was why would the licensed version not have bugs that the "original" version has. But maybe I had it all mixed up (that wouldn't be anything new). Perhaps PCB123 was using the IVEX software all along.

Oh well.

Regards,
Steve