Issues with Internet Explorer 11 after Install of AS7 on Windows 10??

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Hi!

I'm hoping someone can help out with this.  I was running Studio 7 on my previous work computer which had Windows 7 and everything worked fine.  Last week that computer had a motherboard failure and the machine was replaced.

I am now on Windows 10 Enterprise, and after I install AS7 via as-installer-7.0.1931-full.exe, IE 11 does not function properly.  

When I go to start IE11, a window flashes open and then it closes almost immediately.  None of the "normal" things you read about for correcting this IE 11 issue work(deleting cache, disabling extensions, etc).  I have tried installing without samples and extensions, and with samples and extensions.  If the install goes to full term, the problem above happens. 

The only way I can get back to a functioning IE11 is to do a system restore to a moment prior to the installation of AS7.  I tried simply uninstalling everything, but that did not work.  I was left with an installed program instance of "Visual C Plus Plus" that did not give me an option to remove it.  I dont know if that lingering "visual C Plus Plus" installation that did not have an uninstall/modify option was the issue, or something else the installation upset though either.

I also dont see any errors in the system logs. 

I can't ask my peers, as I don't have any:)  I work in a mainly mechanical engineering firm and I have a mechanical background, but my side knowledge of these devices has led me to use them for solutions.  Therefore our IT organization is similarly useless.

 

I need to figure something out, as there are some legacy corporate intranet sites that ONLY work in IE with compatibility mode, and I need to be able to use those for my daily core functions.

 

Thanks for any help if you seen this before and managed to work through it.

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MechE74 wrote:
None of the "normal" things you read about for correcting this IE 11 issue work(deleting cache, disabling extensions, etc).
IE 11 may go nuts if you don’t have Default Search Provider specified @ AskWoody

 

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Thanks, but not sure that is it.  Its not that IE goes nuts, it flat out does not work after installing AS.

After installing AS, when I attempt to open IE a window simply flashes briefly and disappears.  It does not appear long enough to have any content.

Also, it doesn't just disappear to the background, I believe it just shuts down because I don't see any instances of IE in the task manager.

I don't claim to have a clue what I am doing

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MechE74 wrote:
Thanks, but not sure that is it.
Likewise though the behavior of the defect appears similar.

MechE74 wrote:
... after installing AS.
What's common between Atmel Studio and Internet Explorer is Visual C++ run-time and .NET

Might try Internet Explorer into a container.

Alternative is Atmel Studio into a container; don't recall any post in this forum about that (that would be cool)

Internet Explorer can run on a Windows Server with operator's PC interface by RDP (Windows 10 Enterprise App-V, might inquire with the ones in IT)

Windows 10 1903 has Windows Sandbox (sandbox Internet Explorer)

 


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Who uses IE anymore, was that not replaced by MS with Edge in Win10?

Do yourself a favor and download Chrome and/or Firefox.

 

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ki0bk wrote:
Who uses IE anymore, ...

MechE74 wrote:
I need to figure something out, as there are some legacy corporate intranet sites that ONLY work in IE with compatibility mode, and I need to be able to use those for my daily core functions.

ki0bk wrote:
... was that not replaced by MS with Edge in Win10?
fyi, Edge is receiving Chrome's the Chromium engine.

edit : Microsoft adopting Chromium for Edge rendering is a big deal — let me count the ways @ AskWoody

 

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Last Edited: Wed. Jun 19, 2019 - 01:12 PM
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Thanks for the info gchapman.  I will have to research these container things.  The links you shared will be a big help.  Going into new uncharted territory for me.  I have set up virtual machines before.  Hoping not to have to do something like that for this, but...

 

This would be so much easier if the company could just update these two sites to a modern framework, but since they wont do that for my benefit...LOL

 

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MechE74 wrote:
I have set up virtual machines before.
One doesn't have to activate a Windows instance to operate it; some features are missing (no Windows updates)

Free Virtual Machines from IE8 to MS Edge - Microsoft Edge Development

 

edit : typo

 

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As an update, I am working towards understanding these containers and getting going with them.

Looks like the sandbox approach would have been awesome, but sandbox came out in the next build of Win10.

Activated containers, downloaded docker.  Currently pulling the server core that matches my build.

 

So if I (loosely) understand this correctly, I will write a script that essentially launches IE from the features that are inside of the server image I am currently downloading?

 

Has this been done before?  Reason I ask is all the examples I see are things that run in the background or are running command line functions.. I havent seen one that launches an application that has its own window.

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Is IE11 up to date?

Reason :

Microsoft releases out-of-band fixes for Win7 and Win8.1 on 6/20 @ AskWoody

... and IE11 to fix errors introduced by Patch Tuesday patches.

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Like others I wonder what the interest in "IE" is anyway? Microsoft are in the process of replacing IE with Edge:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge#Features

 

On  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer note the use of the past tense and in particular the comment:

The browser is discontinued, but still maintained.[2]

(also like others I'd favour Chrome/Firefox over IE/Edge any day of the week).

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How effective is Edge Enterprise mode?

Am uncertain as IE11 is installed; IIRC, Edge has some Hyper-V capability so maybe IE11 via Hyper-V.

An alternate way may be site isolation (isolate the required legacy web sites)

 

Lifecycle FAQ—Internet Explorer

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What about Microsoft Edge? What is the Windows 10 enterprise browser story?

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but customers can use the backward compatibility in Internet Explorer 11 to upgrade web apps on their own schedules. For more information on how to improve compatibility, go here

 

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clawson,

I hate internet explorer.  I use Chrome almost exclusively.  But as mentioned, unfortunately a few sites for my work are currently on an older framework and will only run on IE in compatibility mode.  Chrome does not have the option, and the solution for Edge is a "run on IE11" tab, which puts me right back where I started from.

A few days ago, I ran across an add on to Chrome(I think) which does let it do compatibility, but my companies IT has it blocked.

 

At this point, I think Im done messing with this.   For a fraction amount of time I spent on figuring out containers could have just bought a second laptop to run AS7 on, even if its the only thing I ever use it for.

 

Thanks for the help gchapman.

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You're welcome!

MechE74 wrote:
For a fraction amount of time I spent on figuring out containers could have just bought a second laptop to run AS7 on, even if its the only thing I ever use it for.
That's what some have done though

MechE74 wrote:
I have set up virtual machines before.
If, more likely when, a customer or operator needs support then you'll likely be travelling with one notebook PC.

Ideas :

 


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UPDATE:

The problem wasnt AS7 or IE per se.

Spent a lot of time with the person from IT who built my machine and did the win10 install.  After trying various things she installed AS7 on a different Win10 machine and it worked fine.

Long story short, one of the complaints they get from people after migrations, upgrades and new drives or machines is we users lose all of our programs and have to go download 20+ new programs again.  In an effort to make my life easier she transferred the Program files and program files(x86) dir's over from my old machine to the new one.  It would appear that trying to retain some of my old program data was causing a conflict somewhere in the registry or something.  In the end, we arent sure what the exact issue is, but she started with a fresh drive drive and a fresh install, and all is great in the AS7 world again for me.

 

Now back to learning how to program these things laugh

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MechE74 wrote:
In an effort to make my life easier she transferred the Program files and program files(x86) dir's over from my old machine to the new one.
What kind of an IT department makes a fundamental error like that? The whole reason you have to "install" Windows programs is for things like making/updating registry entries, doing regsrv on the DLLs, adding DLL variants to the WinSxS and so on. You don't get all that simply by copying the program directory. Very surprised that someone employed professionally in IT would make such a fundamental error. indecision

 

If installing Windows programs really were as easy as just copying a few .exe and .dll we'd all be installing stuff that way!

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If installing Windows programs really were as easy as just copying a few .exe and .dll we'd all be installing stuff that way!

I liked when moving your favorite program from computer A to B meant removing your floppy from computer A and inserting it into computer B...no hard drive involved.....or maybe I didn't really like that.

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Well done!

MechE74 wrote:
Long story short, one of the complaints they get from people after migrations, upgrades and new drives or machines is we users lose all of our programs and have to go download 20+ new programs again.
App-V for accessing applications stored on a Windows Server; maybe a no-go for notebook PC as these may have intermittent VPN (off-site, no WAN, no LAN) to access the server.

LOB is mentioned in Sideloading (IE11 is a LOB app in this case)

MechE74 wrote:
It would appear that trying to retain some of my old program data was causing a conflict somewhere in the registry or something.
or Group Policy.

Atmel Studio's installation can be automated via PowerShell.

 


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IIRC, the most recent Atmel Studio clean :

https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/device-selection-not-showing-any-devices#comment-2694446

though there are several threads on this.

 

edit : added a word

 

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Last Edited: Mon. Jul 15, 2019 - 05:34 PM
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As a full time web developer, in our internal web apps, we reject the use of IE because it is 100% crap. The page redirects them to a page that says IE is junk, use Chrome or Firefox. 

 

Ditch IE.

 

 

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PhillyNJ wrote:
... use Chrome or Firefox.

System requirements for Microsoft Office | Browsers

Safari, Chrome, and Firefox: Office 365 and Office 2019 are designed to work with the current version of the Safari, Chrome, and Firefox browsers.

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[Microosft Edge]

[Microsoft Internet Explorer 11]

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via System Requirements | Office 365 Platform Service Description | Microsoft Docs

due to Office 365 won't activate | Forum for Microsoft Office 365 | CodeWeavers

 

Some operators' LOB applications include earlier versions of Microsoft Office so IE 11 and its Enterprise Mode may be a necessity.

 

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