I downloaded MPLAB a couple of days ago just to take a look. I was pleasantly surprised to see the first steps in AVR support. Nothing works yet, but it is a start. I look forward to the day when Microsoft Windows will be a thing of my past.
When I started up MPLAB (from Ubuntu 18) while a MEGA328PB X-Mini was connected:
When I created a new project:
Import a project from AS into MPLAB:
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Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user
So when is MPLAB X IDE v5.0 being released..?
Does it still include the full compilers?
really looking forward to ditch AtmelStudio for Mplab. Finally a great IDE comming to AVR. Also no more need for Windows.
really looking forward to ditch AtmelStudio for Mplab. Finally a great IDE comming to AVR.
While I am no fan of Visual Studio being its a Msnot product I rather like AtmelStudio. JMO
Also no more need for Windows.
YES! Agree on that fully. The idea of not needing Msnot anymore would be a welcome thing to me.....and many others.
JIm
If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? - Lee "theusch"
Please Read: Code-of-Conduct
Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user
really looking forward to ditch AtmelStudio for Mplab. Finally a great IDE comming to AVR.
Both Atmel and Microchip have MCU IDE that stand-out from the crowd.
Also no more need for Windows.
Major PC OEM have Linux options for new PC.
Windows still has hold in some applications that embedded systems (software and hardware) designers operate (ECAD, etc)
SEGGER - The Embedded Experts
Overview of Supported IDEs
https://www.segger.com/products/debug-probes/j-link/technology/ides/overview-of-supported-ides/
not in SEGGER's IDE list is Microsoft Visual Studio Code :
AVR Studio On Mac & Linux?
by ka7ehk
IDC and Gartner agree: PC sales up year-over-year in 2nd quarter @ AskWoody
July 13th, 2018
https://www.askwoody.com/2018/idc-and-gartner-agree-pc-sales-up-year-over-year-in-2nd-quarter/
(open either the Gartner or IDC links)
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Individuals are moving to non-Windows platforms.
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@jgmdesign wrote:
While I am no fan of Visual Studio being its a Msnot product I rather like AtmelStudio. JMO
I also like Atmel Studio and would prefer to have it ported to Linux, but its dependency on Microsoft products is it downfall.
Note: marking this post as the solution so this topic is "solved."
I wrote:
So when is MPLAB X IDE v5.0 being released..?
It was released the day before I made the original post:
Note: promoting this reply to "solution."
Oh no....guys AtmelStudio is the best IDE of all! I love it....MAPLABX is crap. I have used it, don't like it.
I fear that AtmelStudio will be abandoned now. MPLAB isn't as good, especially for code browsing and completion. Doesn't even have a good dark theme.
More worrying is what will happen to AVR-GCC support. They have added AVR support to their knock-off version, XC8, but you have to pay to enable optimization. Will they keep improving GCC or will they try to keep all the updates in XC8 and make you pay for it?
Will they keep improving GCC
mojo-chan wrote:
I'm not aware of Atmel ever having "improved" GCC? Their contribution has simply been adding new device support "ahead of the curve" so their own build supports more devices than the GNU FSF master tree.
I consider that an improvement :-)
Maybe we will start to see new devices supported by XC8 but GCC has to wait. I suppose at least they do have to publish the source code of XC8, but last time I looked it was damn near impossible to build a Windows version without the optimization limitations yourself.
I fear that AtmelStudio will be abandoned now.
Due to EDBG's open interface, third parties are adding, or have added, AVR debugger interfaces.
My concern :
Is MPLAB PICkit 4's interface open source?
A different tack was taken by Texas Instruments in their MSPDS.
... or will they try to keep all the updates in XC8 and make you pay for it?
Walling off part of GCC to have a proprietary code generator or an optimized linker can be done, as was done by Somnium, but that didn't fare well (Segger acquired Somnium)
Embedded Debugger-Based Tools Protocols User's Guide
http://www.microchip.com/webdoc/GUID-33422CDF-8B41-417C-9C31-E4521ADAE9B4/index.html
TI.com
MSPDS MSP Debug Stack
https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/come-join-us-mplab-now-supports-avrs?page=2#comment-2504476
https://blog.segger.com/the-segger-linker-and-somnium-assets/
Edit: strikethru
I'm concerned about the potential demise of Atmel-ICE and therefore EDBG.
Due to EDBG's open interface, third parties are adding, or have added, AVR debugger interfaces.
My concern :
Is MPLAB PICkit 4's interface open source?
A different tack was taken by Texas Instruments in their MSPDS.
I haven't used PICkit4, but the ICD2/3 were absolutely terrible. Complete junk, barely worked, awful design. PICKIT3 was okay but only programs and still isn't great.
The other big issue is that Microchip's production programming stuff seems to be quite poor. With Atmel we were able to integrate atprogram into our automated test environment.
