Dragon vs STK500 (they both look good, ideas?)

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SO, I am still figuring out the best programmer/debugger for me.

I just found out about the STK500:
https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

Is this better then the dragon?

Also, if I got the dragon, I would have to buy more things like the dragon rider500 to even get started o_O

So, in a sense, this is totally a worthy buy right? The STK500 can be used out of the box it seems.

I am still so new to AVR, I want to make sure I buy the right stuff.

I am so sorry if I am a bother, I searched for similar threads and did not find any :P

Also, is the dragon rider500 the best ideal thing to buy in getting started with the dragon? I also saw this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/...

BTW - I liked how the dragon is usb... the STK500 is not, but it supports more chips, and ALL if I add teh STK501 extension.

Thanks guys,
Twist.

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Is this better then the dragon?
It is DIFEERENT than the Dragon. The STK500 is just a programmer but has sockets for almost all PDIP AVRs.

The Dragon allows you to debug and program but it has only 1 socket so you need to wire it up for the chip you want to use. The best is to have both. :)

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

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JohanEkdahl - I could not find what you are talking about... even using the search engine.

I am going with the Dragon though, and getting the dragon Rider500.

Is that the best choice? Using the Dragon Rider? What else could I do right?

Thanks for the help so far guys!
:)

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twist2b wrote:
JohanEkdahl - I could not find what you are talking about... even using the search engine.

https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

twist2b wrote:
I am going with the Dragon though, and getting the dragon Rider500.

sounds good

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Thanks a ton.

I looked at the STK600, its appealing and un-appealing at the same time.

It starts out at 200 and you can't even program yet! You have to buy boards separately to do anything.

Eventually I will get the STK500 I guess. Can you attach the dragon to the STK500?

Thank you so much guys for the help!

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It starts out at 200
You should be able to get it for $100 for the next feew weeks. https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...
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Can you attach the dragon to the STK500?
Yes.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Personally, I would go for the STK500 + a USB->RS232 cable. You can build many projects directly on the STK500 board.

You may add a Dragon or a JTAG-1 clone later on. ( or a JTAG-mkII )

I would not buy a STK600.

David.