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Fellow Freakers,

I am in search of the following crimping tool:

 

https://www.molex.com/molex/prod...

 

It has been classified obsolete and there is no apparent replacement for it.

 

Using ultra small nose pliers is not practical, and it makes for a very lousy connection.  Soldering is worse.

 

If anyone has one and would be willing to loan it to me/sell it to me please let me know.

 

Thanks,

East Coast Jim

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Last Edited: Wed. May 1, 2019 - 12:37 AM
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There are two replacements listed on the page you linked.

 

West Coast Jim

Jim Wagner Oregon Research Electronics, Consulting Div. Tangent, OR, USA http://www.orelectronics.net

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MOLEX/ Waldom 63819-0300 Hand Crimp Tool For Mini-Fit JR Crimp Terminals, NEW      $200 + $25

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOLEX-Waldom-63819-0300-Hand-Crimp-Tool-For-Mini-Fit-JR-Crimp-Terminals-NEW/173879488868

 

Last Edited: Wed. Apr 24, 2019 - 02:57 AM
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ka7ehk wrote:

There are two replacements listed on the page you linked.

 

West Coast Jim

 

In my frustration I missed that entirely.  Thank you

 

sbennett wrote:

 

MOLEX/ Waldom 63819-0300 Hand Crimp Tool For Mini-Fit JR Crimp Terminals, NEW      $200 + $25

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOLEX-Waldom-63819-0300-Hand-Crimp-Tool-For-Mini-Fit-JR-Crimp-Terminals-NEW/173879488868

 

 

Nice price.  I shall order one.  Thank you as well.

 

I am tired.  Time for some tea and then some sleep.

 

JIm

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The engineer pa-09 is a universal crimper that *might* work for you. It's handy to have around for infrequent use on those small pitch connectors, but might not be as precise as a tool from the connector's manufacturer.

 

http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pa09_20applicatn_chart.html

 

They claim that it works with the 1.25mm molex picoblade terminals.

 

- S

 

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Ordered crimped from EBay. Will be here next week.

Jim

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jgmdesign wrote:
It has been classified obsolete

So they could sell you two, one for male parts, one for female parts!  Oh the humanity!  smiley

 

Jim

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ki0bk wrote:
So they could sell you two, one for male parts, one for female parts!  Oh the humanity!  smiley

 

Decades ago, I noticed for AMP, that when a new connector was produced, a newer version of contacts were required and a new crimper was required.  At that time those simple Molex connectors needed only their very useful wire cutter, stripper, contact crimper and screw cutter. I expect it's called profit churning.

 

                      

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Ahmed Hamdy

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That tool is not compatible with the connectors i am using

Thabks though for looking

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

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Take a look at   IWS-3220M   and its brothers...got a lot of great review, though not certain as to if it exactly fits your crimp needs.  One reviewer said worked great with his 2mm part & another said he had good luck with 1mm parts 

The $25 dollar price is right

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IWS-3220M-Micro-Connector-Pin-Crimping-Tool-0-03-0-52mm-32-20AWG-for-Molex-JST/282841198447?hash=item41daa62f6f:g:q9MAAOSwA25afT5q

 

Also, at the bottom of the listing appears several other models that might be of interest...the hard part is sorting out whether it is a good firt for some oddball contact.

 

 

 

 

Not sure who make up these crazy prices...some models are $15, and very similar looking ones are $50 or $500...I see the same thing happen with needle nose pliers & jeans.

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Last Edited: Thu. Apr 25, 2019 - 02:41 AM
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THats a good find, and they list teh part I am using too.

 

I already ordered the crimper sbennet found in the earlier post as it is the exact one called out.  I was able to get it at a lower price as the seller took my offer pretty quick....really quick, which makes me wonder if I should have went a little lower but I am not in a position to lose so its all good.

 

Keep teh finds coming as it might help someone else!

 

East Coast Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

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If you want to see a good overview of a lot of terminal types & some crimping tools, take a look here

 

http://tech.mattmillman.com/info/crimpconnectors/

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ki0bk wrote:
So they could sell you two, one for male parts, one for female parts!

Do you have photos of your male parts?  Paraphrasing the old "send picture of boat"...

 

Wanted:  Crimper that will handle large male parts, and associated female receptacles.  Please send picture of male parts and female receivers.

Us old farm boys look at that title and think

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Pliers like those are not much more than a few pieces of stamped sheet metal and some sintered metal parts.

Such a plier costs a few EUR to make, but in this world there simply is no correlation anymore between what it costs to make a product and what you have to pay to obtain a copy.

Steel costs about EUR 2 to EUR 4 per kg, and when you se a price of more than EUR 15 or so for simple mass produces stuff like those pliers then you know there is something redicilous going on. It's as simple as that. No excuses.

 

Edit addition:

The picture above looks like the beaks of the plier are made with wire EDM, which is a relatively expencive process. It has some merit here because of very tiny tolerances and the ability to machine very hard materials. But still a bit religiondicurious.

 

Doing magic with a USD 7 Logic Analyser: https://www.avrfreaks.net/comment/2421756#comment-2421756

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Last Edited: Fri. Apr 26, 2019 - 09:25 PM
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Obviously you’re not very affluent then!

Btw the word you want is: ridiculous

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 for simple mass produces stuff like those pliers then you know there is something redicilous going on. 

Agreed, especially when you can buy an entire VCR full of precision mechanisms, motors, etc (and electronics) for $40... Now who erased my tapes? 

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Kartman wrote:
Obviously you’re not very affluent then!

Partly so, but if I would need a new oscilloscope, I have no trouble spending EUR 500 on it. (I simply do not need more scope or I would spend more). For my purposes I have do band limit those 200MHz monsters to keep the noise down.

 

Bigger "problem" is that if someone tries to coerce me into getting EUR200 out of my pocket for something that's worth 10% of that I feel conned, ripped off, swindled and cheated.

Doing magic with a USD 7 Logic Analyser: https://www.avrfreaks.net/comment/2421756#comment-2421756

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Paulvdh wrote:

Pliers like those are not much more than a few pieces of stamped sheet metal and some sintered metal parts.

Such a plier costs a few EUR to make, but in this world there simply is no correlation anymore between what it costs to make a product and what you have to pay to obtain a copy.

Steel costs about EUR 2 to EUR 4 per kg, and when you se a price of more than EUR 15 or so for simple mass produces stuff like those pliers then you know there is something redicilous going on. It's as simple as that. No excuses.

 

I sort of can/cannot argue with your theory.    THe crimpers arrived today, and from teh first glance I can agree that they did not cost $300.00 to make.  I would say at most $50 or $60usd.

 

But, after hours of me trying to either crimp these little F&%^ing connectors that I need my strongest magnification reading glasses, and another lighted magnifier to see the damned things, or try and get a microscopic dab of solder on(yeah right), if I had to make several cable assemblies up, I would gladly pay $300.00 for this tool as it crimps the connector on to the wire in one clean squeeze of the handles.  What is a pain in the a$$ is getting the microscopic connector in the holder in the tool itself.

 

Someone has the 'production' pneumatic version for sale for almost $3000.00 so my spending a little under $100.00 to save my eyesight, headaches, and sanity is not a bitter pill to swallow.

 

One thing that may be missed in the complaint about the cost of these tools is that the business end of these tools are very precision made jaws.  I cannot get a good closeup of the opening I have to wiggle the connector contact into prior to crimping, but it is not something that is simply made with a file.

 

Well either way, I can now make my custom USB cables so my board can interface with the customers tablet.  All good

 

Thanks All!

 

East Coast Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

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No doubt, its supply/demand & NRE...They don't sell many so the price is higher.  The buyers who buy, desperately need it, (a captive audience) so they are willing to pay a premium.   

Even high precision is not a cost barrier, if the volume is high...CD's, video heads, etc, are very precise at giveaway pricing.    

 

I jumped on the crimper bandwagon too, after I had had enough of constantly pinching my fingers when using the wrong tool!  

Now all I need is one of those automated wire cutter/strippers...we used to have one where I worked, nice machine! 

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avrcandies wrote:
Now all I need is one of those automated wire cutter/strippers...we used to have one where I worked, nice machine! 

 

+1 

I have been wanting one for several years....might take the plunge this year

 

JIm

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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avrcandies wrote:

Now all I need is one of those automated wire cutter/strippers...

 

Can you please post a picture of this?

 

--Mike

 

EDIT: thank you!  :-)

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avrcandies wrote:
the cheapest I could find

 

I have a industrial machine liquidator about a 40 minute drive from me that sometimes get these in at a stoopid low price so I am on a waiting list for one.  If he has two should I Pick one up for you? smiley

 

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

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Last Edited: Wed. May 1, 2019 - 04:00 PM
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sometimes get these in at a stoopid low price so I am on a waiting list for one.  If he has two should I Pick one up for you? 

I probably can't really justify the $$, unless it was dirt cheap.   My wife got me a nice pair of strippers for my birthday, so I'll have to be happy with them.

 

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jgmdesign wrote:
I was able to get it at a lower price as the seller took my offer pretty quick

 

I must be an eBay boob.  I see the option for making an offer, but I always just pay the listed.  I didn't know you could negotiate with the seller on the price.  Sometimes my ignorance astounds me.  Not just sometimes, all the time.

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avrcandies wrote:
My wife got me a nice pair of strippers for my birthday, so I'll have to be happy with them.

 

IF they disappoint, please send them this way.  I will gladly pay shipping!  I could use a pair of strippers. devil

 

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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MarkThomas wrote:
I see the option for making an offer, but I always just pay the listed. 

You fool!! surprise smiley

 

MarkThomas wrote:
I didn't know you could negotiate with the seller on the price.

Thats what MAKE AN OFFER means.  I will concede though that some sellers put that there but have no intention of accepting any offers.  For me, everything I put on Ebay I simply put a fixed price and add teh MAKE OFFER button.  WHY?  I want to get the stuff out of here....No haggling, you want it, make me an offer....99% of the time I'll accept.

 

avrcandies wrote:
You can make an offer, but sometimes they still get you with the shipping:

Yabbut if the offer savings offsets the shipping you are still ahead.  I looked at your link and that is pretty funny.  Kinda like this one from another thread of mine:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Op...

 

I made an offer, but they refused.  Ended up getting two 9010's fully loaded for peanuts and expedited shipping.  The seller of the 9010's accepted my offer on that as well.

 

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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jgmdesign wrote:
Thats what MAKE AN OFFER means.

 

I assumed making an offer started an auction, and I just wanted the stuff.  You know what they say about assumptions.  So I'm an ass, and you called me a FOOL.  I will have to hold that against you for the rest of my life.  I am going to start negotiating.  Most of the stuff I buy on eBay is less than $20 anyway.

 

The link you posted didn't say anything about make an offer, but they did have 0 available.  You could get something like that for about 1/10 the price these days.

 

It seems the older I get the more I am ignorant about.  I guess that's progress.

 

 

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MarkThomas wrote:
So I'm an ass, and you called me a FOOL.  I

I did that in JEST my friend. You need to relax.

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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I know that.  I was just pulling your chain.devil  I took it as a friendly compliment.

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First Object Oriented Language, generated a complement for you.

 

 

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Jim,

But I wont forget it, ever, that you called me a fool.  I dont take things like that lightly.wink  And I am unusually relaxed today, even though I see my gastro doc in half an hour and he is going to want me to do something I dont want to do.

 

Take care, you big boob,

mark

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My doctor gave me some bad news-- he told me, "I'm sorry, but I've determined you are suffering from multiple personalities".  I replied, that's ok doc, as long as I'm not the one getting the bill"

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Have you ever seen the movie "Momento"?