Atmel System Designer License

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Hello everyone!

As I'm currently working on FPSLIC parts, I was wondering if any of you guys managed to get a license from ATMEL for their system designer software.
Indeed, it has been 3 months since I purchased 10 parts and my ATMEL seller still hasn't sent me a license.

Or does someone would have an evaluation license for me?
:roll:
I really need it, and it seems that the partnership between mentor graphics and atmel isn't working anymore...

Mathieu

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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nobody to help me? :(

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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We get very very little traffic about FPSLIC here - they obviously aren't popular (or users don't associate them with 'Freaks?).

Your best bet is to email Atmel using avr@atmel.com as the service you have got from your Atmel supplier sounds atrocious.

Cliff (moderator)

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Yep... I don't understand why so few people are interested in such good compromise between the different aspects of creating an embedded solution needing FPGA & uC.

I'm already in contact with several guys from ATMEL... but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere...

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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I don't understand why so few people are interested in such good compromise between the different aspects of creating an embedded solution needing FPGA & uC

The main FPGA suppliers all have their own uC core that tend to be more widely used, e.g.:

http://www.altera.com/products/i...

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I know this one... but the reason why I chose FPSLICs was because of the supposed null cost of the development tools and the use of easily manufactured PCB.

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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limpkin wrote:
Yep... I don't understand why so few people are interested in such good compromise between the different aspects of creating an embedded solution needing FPGA & uC.

I think there was plenty of interest, but Atmels choice of licensing and fees for the tools turned people away. (it certainly did for me)

Writing code is like having sex.... make one little mistake, and you're supporting it for life.

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That is probably the reason.

limpkin wrote:

I'm already in contact with several guys from ATMEL... but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere...

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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You might be better off putting the OpenCores AVR into a conventional Xilinx or Altera FPGA:

http://www.opencores.org/project...

An unlimited Altera NIOS II license is free, now.

Leon Heller G1HSM

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I might have yes...
But I didn't want to pay for jtag adapters and expensive soldering process...

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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I've got a design for a DIY ByteBlaster, and soldering isn't a problem.

Leon Heller G1HSM

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Before following Leon's suggestion, I hope yo realize that using an unlicensed/unauthorized AVR core in a commercial product opens you up to legal liability. Atmel could elect to sue you, as they own the AVR instruction set, and any rights to it.

Writing code is like having sex.... make one little mistake, and you're supporting it for life.

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They probably won't mind if he tells them that he had to use it because they wouldn't let him have an FPSLIC software license. :)

Leon Heller G1HSM

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Do you honestly believe that? If you do, you are very naive. They want their money, one way or another. and if they see enough value in going after it, they will. Better to seek out a license royalty, if you're going to go that route.

Writing code is like having sex.... make one little mistake, and you're supporting it for life.

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You obviously didn't notice the :)!

Anyway, if he told them that they might get their collective fingers out.

Leon Heller G1HSM

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Maybe they want money... but I can't understand why it takes sooo long to have a license / to get info on how to buy a license for the software....

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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But it is just like any other business relation that doesn't work out. You can continue waiting, begging and lamenting your faith. Or you cut your losses, walk away, don't look back and work with something else. If Atmel doesn't care about you, why should you care about Atmel?

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.

Last Edited: Sun. Nov 1, 2009 - 03:49 PM
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Have you actually purchased the software or starter kit? It looks like you need to do that to get a license:

"There are two ways to sign up with Atmel for the FPSLIC Product. If you would like to be kept informed of new information on the FPSLIC device, you can subscribe to receive updates without having a license.

You can use this page to request a license for the FPSLIC System Designer software. In order to do this you must have purchased either the System Designer software or the Starter Kit, which includes a 6 month license for the software. If you have purchased either of these kits, you will have a serial number which you can enter below."

Leon Heller G1HSM

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I directly purchased fpslic parts. The person from ATMEL who sold them to me said that he'll sent me a license a few weeks later....

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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Well.... still no new...
Does anyone of you guys would have an ev kit?

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As I said, you need to buy the software or the evaluation kit to get a license.

Leon Heller G1HSM

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Asking for a license number here is like asking for a software crack, and is not permitted. If someone here bought an eval kit, It's a pretty darn good bet that they're using the license for themselves. So please stop asking for a license from the membership.

Writing code is like having sex.... make one little mistake, and you're supporting it for life.

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Afaik

The cost of the software tools for the fpslic , would be very high.

So high that it would be cheaper to buy an EV-Kit every 6 months , and get the license that way.

/Bingo

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By coming here I'm hoping to get in touch with people that would sell me dev kits / eval tools...
I'm not looking for free cracks / licenses as price is not a problem.
I've contacted mentor graphics several times so they could sell me a license, without success because of the age of the software...

Thanks a lot for considering me as someone I'm not...

My electronic projects blog >> www.limpkin.fr

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And what part of all the answer you got were wrong? Just because you chose to ignore them for two weeks now doesn't make them wrong. May I summarize:

Buy a license from Atmel. If Atmel refuses to sell one, doesn't give you a license for free (why should they?), or doesn't talk to you, then walk away and use another manufacturer.

What on earth is so hard to understand?

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.