ATMEL Studio7 - Problems with help viewer

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Hello!

Yesterday i installed Atmel Studio 7 on my PC.

So i started a adc_example file for the ATMega88 and wanted test the Help Viewer bei klicking:

 

1. Mouse on DDRB and press F1  --> the Help Viewer opened and tell me, "No content was found on your computer"

2. I click the Manage tab and then i click Add --> in the area "Pending changes" the MS Help Viewer 2.1 Documentation is mentioned

3. I click the button "Update" but nothing happened.

 

Is somebody able to explain why it does not work?

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You need to click on the Update button at the bottom AFTER you select all the Help topics you want. Then WAIT (quite a long time for me sad) until the help files are downloaded and installed.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Yes, we no longer ship documentation with studio (70 megs gone from the installer). 

 

Click the 'Download documentation' link on the start page, choose what documents you want (by clicking add), then Click the update button (not that slow outside AUS). 

:: Morten

 

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I would like the help file back that allowed me to see cycle counts for each instruction.

Which file do I add? Having EXTREMELY limited bandwidth, I can't just click 'em all and hope for the best.

 

Thanks,

Brad

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Thanks.

 

Can you please clarify this?

I't the simple things that confuse me, so I am probably missing the obvious in your explanation.

I do miss the cycle count page, as it was a good "sanity check" when adding up a loop with 200 assembly instructions!

 

 

 

Ok, I finally found the "Start Page". Normally, I just open a project, so this is the first time I have seen this.

At least, I think this is the page you are referring to as it is called "Start Page" in the top left.

But the "Download Documentation" you mention eludes me!...

 

 

 

 

 

Now, I can get here through another set of clicks, but I have no idea what to download just to get the instruction help page that shows cycle counts!...

 

 

I am allowed to download no more than 150mb per day on my satellite, and if I go over, it's 24 hours of no internet, so I don't want to click the wrong thing!

 

Thanks,

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 27, 2015 - 03:01 PM
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The assembler instructions are in the avr assembler user guide.

Which build of studio is this? The f1query that was run looks like something I changed away from many months ago...

:: Morten

 

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It is ...

 

Atmel Studio 7 (Version: 7.0.305 - Beta)
© 2014 Atmel Corp.
All rights reserved.

 

 

I would prefer not to have to download another 750mb though.

For me, it involves a 3 hour trip to town!

 

Thanks,

Brad

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Ah, yes. The link on the front page was added after the beta (based on feedback).

F1 lookups inside the editor will also not work, as this was added later. However, searching / browsing using help-+view help will of course be the same as it was in studio 6.

:: Morten

 

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Ok, thanks for the help!

Next time I am unlucky enough to be in the in the city, I will download a newer version.

 

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Ok, I brought my computer to town, and downloaded Studio7... 7.0.634

As you said, pressing F1 on an assembly instruction simply brings up a page where I can select a multitude of download options.

 

Can someone please answer the following question in terms that I can understand...

 

Question : What do I need to download in order to get back my "Press F1 and see an instruction page that includes cycle counts"?

 

This is really all I want! I do not have the luxury of downloading terabytes of installers, nor the time.

 

For my latest 2 hour drive to modern internet, and hour of download time, I am no better off.

In fact, my AVRISP is no longer working. Meet my new Albatross...

 

 

Now, I understand that this is 2015, so I am a slave to the computer (not the other way around), but com-on man!! I was having fun yesterday!

 

Thanks,

Brad

 

 

 

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 04:06 PM
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Although I am now shaving Yaks, and this threads has gone from "no help file" to "no driver", I will continue to post here, as there will probably be some other poor sap stuck in the vortex.

 

Ok, since I have nothing but oodles of free time, I uninstalled Studio, and reinstalled it twice, even removing all drivers in the control panel.

Still nothing. No available tool but the simulator. I am dead in the water now. On the bright side, I no longer need a help file!

 

I think the cute little Atmel bug turned Evil on me....

 

 

At this point, I would be happy just to get back to programming.

I will write out the cycle counts myself with pen and paper if I have to.

 

Should I reinstall a 3rd time? Buy a new computer? Sell my Soul?

Help me Obi-Wan!

 

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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> On the bright side, I no longer need a help file!
That's the spirit!

"Experience is what enables you to recognise a mistake the second time you make it."

"Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement."

"Wisdom is always wont to arrive late, and to be a little approximate on first possession."

"When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not unicorns."

"Fast.  Cheap.  Good.  Pick two."

"We see a lot of arses on handlebars around here." - [J Ekdahl]

 

Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 05:03 PM
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joeymorin wrote:
> On the bright side, I no longer need a help file! That's the spirit!

 

Yeah!!!.... I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down.

 

I would prefer not to piss this day away though. My AVR awaits an upload!

 

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Question : What do I need to download in order to get back my "Press F1 and see an instruction page that includes cycle counts"?

AVR Assembler user guide

 

In fact, my AVRISP is no longer working. Meet my new Albatross...

As you apparently did not read in the installer, in 7.0 we have had to update the Jungo driver to version 12. This implies that Windows 7 needs to have a update applied (KB3033929 to be exact). If you machine is so offline as it sounds, you might not have gotten this. This is the reason for the exclamation mark.

 

To use jungo tool with older versions of Atmel Studio, see downgrading Jungo tools to revert to version 11.5. This procedure will make the exclamation mark go away for the tool (i.e it rebinds to version 11.5 which uses a weak hash for signing).

:: Morten

 

(yes, I work for Atmel, yes, I do this in my spare time, now stop sending PMs)

 

The postings on this site are my own and do not represent Microchip’s positions, strategies, or opinions.

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meolsen wrote:

Question : What do I need to download in order to get back my "Press F1 and see an instruction page that includes cycle counts"?

AVR Assembler user guide

 

In fact, my AVRISP is no longer working. Meet my new Albatross...

As you apparently did not read in the installer, in 7.0 we have had to update the Jungo driver to version 12. This implies that Windows 7 needs to have a update applied (KB3033929 to be exact). If you machine is so offline as it sounds, you might not have gotten this. This is the reason for the exclamation mark.

 

To use jungo tool with older versions of Atmel Studio, see downgrading Jungo tools to revert to version 11.5. This procedure will make the exclamation mark go away for the tool (i.e it rebinds to version 11.5 which uses a weak hash for signing).

 

Thanks Sir, I shall give it a whirl.

 

Yes, I usually run with my cable unhooked, as I can download no more than 100MB per day on my connection.

But to be honest, I might not have read the the installer notes either.

I have this odd perception, that I should be able to click install, walk away, and then have the tools work for me.

Much like pressing the accelerator on my car, I simply expect to move forward, and not have to open the hood each time.

I prefer to put my energy into doing creative things with AVR rather than fixing, tweaking, and pleading with the toolchain.

 

I shall report back after the next Yak is fully shorn....

 

Brad

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Oh boy..... here we go.

I shall go plug in the coffee maker, and ensure that my gun is loaded just in case....

 

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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:: Morten

 

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Yeah, damn Bill Gates!

I managed to hack around in the registry and get that update installed, and now I am uninstalling studio7 to try again.

Not sure what a "Jungo" or "weak hash" is, but we shall see what happens.

.... "weak hash".... whoever wrote some of the Win7 code is probably smokin' it.

 

Will report back soon... Yak #3 almost shorn now.

 

Thanks for you patience.

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Ok, I managed to get a few hours older, but no joy on the ability to get my AVRISP working yet!

 

1) Installed the Windoze update as you recommended (after some twiddling).

2 ) Completely uninstalled Studio 7 once again.

3) Went into Device Manager and removed everything under Jungo (whatever that is).

4) Installed Studio 7 again.

5) Plugged in my AVRISP to let the driver install...

 

 

6) Verified that AVRISP was back in Control Panel....

 

 

7) Tried to run the tool, but once again failed...

 

 

Any other suggestions?

I could could try laying out my next project directly with nMOS silicon using rubylith and a razor-blade if all else fails!

 

Brad

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 06:15 PM
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Yes, you shouldn't have had removed the atmelwindrvr entry. This is the kernel driver for the isp2....

 

You can add it by right-clicking the root node in the device manager (the computer), select add legacy hardware, and browse until you get to a list, where you can select Jungo and atmelwindrvr.

 

Completely from my head, so text is probably different?

:: Morten

 

(yes, I work for Atmel, yes, I do this in my spare time, now stop sending PMs)

 

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Ok, that worked, and now I have the Atmel WinDriver installed.

Did a restart.

Still no ability to program.

 

 

Do I need to do a5th full uninstall and re-install on Studio7?

I am becoming exceedingly good at that now.

 

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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As a matter of interest WHY are you installing AS7? Are you working with a chip not supported by AS4.18?

 

That's about the only reason to go through this pain and I am SO, SO, SORRY I selected a chip for a project not supported by AS4.18! Even simple programming is stuffed.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Windriver is the kernel driver for 6.2 and earlier. For 7.0 you need atmelwindrvr.

:: Morten

 

(yes, I work for Atmel, yes, I do this in my spare time, now stop sending PMs)

 

The postings on this site are my own and do not represent Microchip’s positions, strategies, or opinions.

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Ok, thanks... I will try that.

Kernel... isn't that a Linux thing? No, wait... it's Commodore?... oh, that's Kernal.

Dang, I miss the simple things, like programming optimized Atmel assembly!

 

Ok, I will keep posting photos as I stumble along.

There MUST be other 1d10t's like me out there that find the "simple" things so damn confusing!

 

Ok, what do I choose here then?...

 

 

And can you also explain to me just what the fark a "Jungo" actually is???

 

Thanks!!

Brad

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 07:18 PM
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Jungo is the USB driver that is used for older debugger/programmers (I. E before jtagice3).

Isnt it listed in the Jungo connectivity node either?

:: Morten

 

(yes, I work for Atmel, yes, I do this in my spare time, now stop sending PMs)

 

The postings on this site are my own and do not represent Microchip’s positions, strategies, or opinions.

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meolsen wrote:
Jungo is the USB driver that is used for older debugger/programmers (I. E before jtagice3). Isnt it listed in the Jungo connectivity node either?

 

Yes, that one was listed under "Jungo Connectivity".

For a second, I thought the battle would be over, bet then remembered that the sun is still up.

 

 

 

Here is the Yak I must now shave...

 

 

 

My shaver blades are beginning to dull, yet I have not made a dent on the herd.

 

Also...

I never use a debugger. Can I somehow just tell Studio to let me program the AVR with the AVRISP without all of this craziness?

 

Brad

 

 

 

 

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 07:44 PM
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Hrm... Installing studio again should cause the driver to be re-applied... Best thought I have (and going to bed now)....

:: Morten

 

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meolsen wrote:

Hrm... Installing studio again should cause the driver to be re-applied... Best thought I have (and going to bed now)....

 

Ok, thanks for your help!

If all goes well, I will be programming again soon.

If things go sideways, I will talk to you again in the morning from the same seat I am in now!

 

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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Also note that Studio 6 should still work (given the steps described in the FAQ I linked above)

:: Morten

 

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I'm in too deep to go back now!

Might as well keep on breaking things.

 

Now the installer is revolting against me. Tried a repair...

 

 

Will instead try re-install #6.

After that, I will try some "weak hash".

 

Brad

 

 

 

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Looks like I have been defeated.

After Uninstall and reinstall number 6, I still have nothing working.

 

That Atmel Wind River thing, or is that Atmel Win Driver Thing? Anyhow, looks like the correct version (12)...

 

 

But I still have nothing but "Simulator" shown in tools.

They can land a Rover on the Moon, but I don't know about their device drivers!

 

My days of AVR programming see to be at a standstill.

..... bummer.

 

 

Brad

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Last Edited: Tue. Dec 8, 2015 - 09:30 PM
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Woah... I fixed the damn thing finally!

 

Out of frustration, I started scouring the web, and found a link to something called LibUSB.

I have no friggin' clue what this really is, and it was probably crazy to run it, but at this point I don't care.

AVRISP is back and working!!!!!

 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32/files/

 

I had to look through the unpacked ZIP file to find an EXE that worked, and for some reason, this is the file that worked...

 

\libusb-win32-bin-1.2.6.0\libusb-win32-bin-1.2.6.0\bin\amd64

 

Anyhow, this hack worked, and I can now do a little programming before the sun goes down.

Use at your own risk!

 

Cheers,

Brad

I Like to Build Stuff : http://www.AtomicZombie.com

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I'm not even a Studio user (or a Windows user, for that matter), but I was just about to drop everything and drive to Gillies to try to help get you sorted.  Can't wait for Quark85 forever! ;-)

"Experience is what enables you to recognise a mistake the second time you make it."

"Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement."

"Wisdom is always wont to arrive late, and to be a little approximate on first possession."

"When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not unicorns."

"Fast.  Cheap.  Good.  Pick two."

"We see a lot of arses on handlebars around here." - [J Ekdahl]