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We have of course tested that everything works, but we only have so many combinations of machines/os/hardware, so until we have had time to dig into the logs, I'll say no comment :) 

 

It might for all I know be related to the AVG issue that John had, as i haven't heard of anyone else having this problem.

 

As for the import, the docs aren't ready, so if it doesn't work then it's probably not your fault (yet) :) 

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And very few extensions have been ported to 7.0 which you probably have noticed. Some developers have been notified and all developers registered on gallery.atmel.com will be notified soon.

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Hi,

What error do you get ?

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As an "outsider" this appears to be a case of induced premature birth. The midwife should be called to account.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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 induced premature birth

Isn't this the whole point of a "beta"? You get the code out to the public once everything has actually been implemented (beyond alpha) but you realise there might still be issues. Your users will try the software in ways you maybe hadn't thought of doing (or don't have the resource to).

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clawson wrote:

 induced premature birth

Isn't this the whole point of a "beta"? You get the code out to the public once everything has actually been implemented (beyond alpha) but you realise there might still be issues. Your users will try the software in ways you maybe hadn't thought of doing (or don't have the resource to).

 

In my world this is the case. All software has bugs. End users will treat your baby (I mean software), like a rag doll. They will do things to it that will shock you.

 

A very wise Computer Science Professor told me "If your program has no bugs, it means no one is using it".

"When all else fails, read the directions"

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Still no Linux Version in Studio7 ?

Microchip really Rocks with mplab-x !!!!

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hagbard wrote:

Still no Linux Version in Studio7 ?

Microchip really Rocks with mplab-x !!!!

 

I doubt it. Atmel Studio 7 is powered by Visual Studio (Microsoft).

"When all else fails, read the directions"

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Yup that ship sailed when Atmel abandoned AVR32 Studio (Eclipse based - potential for following "Studio"s to all be multi-OS) and sold their soul to the M$ machine.

 

M$ must be laughing all the way to the bank. We're now in a situation where if you want the full Atmel development experience you have to pay M$ for a licence to Win 7, 8, 8.1 and presumably shortly 10.

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I was try compile and run program on ATSAM3X8E (Arduino Due). Program compile without problems. With Atmel-ICE in JTAG mode programming and debugging works OK. With SAM-ICE in SWD mode programming by "Tools/Device programming" works OK, but starting program with or without debugging (F5, Alt+F5, Ctrl+Alt+F5) results in "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" error.

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Hmh, strange. I'll look into it tomorrow :) 

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I guess that you have installed something wrong.

Moi??? Doing something wrong? Never! surprise

 

  I just used the WEB installer for AVR8.    I did not install ARM or ASF.

Same here, twice, after the dog ate the homework.

John Samperi

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What error do you get when importing a sketch from 1.7.2 ?

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Did you try SAM-ICE using JTAG? 

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No, because I don't have proper adaptor for these strange connectors on Atmel-ICE and JTAG on Due.

With Due I can use only Atmel-ICE with JTAG and SAM-ICE with SWD.

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AVG just got back to me confirming that Atmel Studio triggered a false-positive. The detecting will be removed in a update to the virus definitions in the near future.

 

Apparently, once the update is done any quarantined files should also be restored, but not sure if that will help if we lost files during installation...

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not sure if that will help if we lost files during installation...

There should not be any lost files. After the first attempt when AVG triggered I restored the "virus" files and repaired the installation.

 

After that I did a complete uninstall when all files disappeared from the computer and did a new install. Unless some vestigial bits remained in the registry preventing things form working everything should be as a new install.

 

I have just repaired the installation again and tried a Mega88 for debugging in DW with the ICE and debug doesn't work.

 

Did you manage to look through the logs I sent? Let's face you haven't got much else to do....... devil

John Samperi

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Hehe, the case is not assigned to me, so you might actually get a response withing decent time..

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david.prentice wrote:

I can not install AS7.0 on my Vista-32 laptop PC because the laptop has died (and AS7.0 does not run on Vista)

I have the same problem.

Microsoft is somewhat silent about how yo upgrade from Vista, whereas even XP users are offered free Windows10.

 

Atmel Studio 7 will have to wait (one or more years) until I buy a new computer. It is the first time I encounter this ' old computer' problem with Vista: until now I am totally happy with it.

 

Proposed solution: Atmel Studio 7 offers a choice for other (older) versions of Microsoft Visual Studio...

Last Edited: Fri. Jun 26, 2015 - 09:35 AM
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whereas even XP users are offered free Windows10.

Is that really true - do you have details of where to find out about that?

 

EDIT: your post made me google. I found this:

 

http://www.dailytech.com/Windows...

 

That seems to suggest that it's not free for either Vista or XP users but there is a "loophole".

Last Edited: Fri. Jun 26, 2015 - 09:38 AM
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Clawson: I made my statement from my memory. I am not an insider, but I agree it looks like a loophole solution.

It looks like XP and Vista are supposed to buy an upgrade  for some  E120.

 

But even I wanted to pay that, I have to do a fresh install. This means I have to give up a well running system. I rather buy a brand new computer then...

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meolsen wrote:

AVG just got back to me confirming that Atmel Studio triggered a false-positive. The detecting will be removed in a update to the virus definitions in the near future.

 

Apparently, once the update is done any quarantined files should also be restored, but not sure if that will help if we lost files during installation...

 

Nice - Love the response time

"When all else fails, read the directions"

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hmmmmmm angry

 

Yet another try.

Completely uninstalled Studio

uninstalled a few other bits with Atmel name  from the control panel

ran AVG PC tune up which cleaned up lots of broken links etc.

deleted installer and reinstalled from the link above, this time I added the ARM stuff well as the AVR.

 

No change as far as debugging with the ICE, also noticed that the simulator in the tools is black rather than blue like the others, don't know if it make any difference.

 

 

As others seem to be able to debug with the JTAG Mk3 I plugged one in, the upgrade screen pops up.

 

 

then

 

 

and following the advice

 

 

however no upgrade is being performed as once I try to debug I'm back to "who's on first", yes, "who's on first", I'm asking you "who's on first", yes he is.....etc.

 

 

 

John Samperi

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Something very screwy is going on! Thinking that the firmware on the JTAG3 was too old to be upgraded I went forward to the past (or is it back to the future) by 30 years and manually upgraded the firmware on my laptop which has AS6.1 from the command line.

 

The firmware upgraded to V2.15  (this was the downgrade from the upgrade in AS6 when the real upgrade messed up AS6.1 SP2??)

 

JTAG worked with AS6.1 on the laptop and AVRdude on this computer, still could not upgrade with AS7. So I did a further upgrade to the original firmware with SP2 which is V3.8 (which seems wrong but anyway, see below).

 

Still no good, so I try a manual upgrade but "Tool is not found" even though the tool was just found as it reports the correct firmware version (V3.8).

 

 

But AS7 says that it's upgrade is V3.2a??

 

At this point I give up.

John Samperi

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Last Edited: Sat. Jun 27, 2015 - 04:59 AM
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@Morten,
Software often has a major version number, minor version number and a build number.
If you have any influence on the powers that be, could you suggest that AS6 or atfw tools display the version with either %d.%02d or with %×.%02x
Punters get very confused when you go from v3.08 to v3.2a when it says 3.8 to 3.2a
They might be less confused by going from v3.08 to v3.42
Yes, I can understand when firmware people like to purvey a sense of mystery.

Last Edited: Sat. Jun 27, 2015 - 06:58 AM
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david.prentice wrote:

Punters get very confused when you go from v3.08 to v3.2a when it says 3.8 to 3.2a
They might be less confused by going from v3.08 to v3.42
Yes, I can understand when firmware people like to purvey a sense of mystery.

... or even progress/improvement.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Sounds very much like http://atmel.force.com/support/a...

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Hehe, it was worse before when different tools used hex or decimal.

 

Now, as far as I know all uses %x.%x, but I do agree that the minor version probably could be %02x for clarity. I'll add a request for that...

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No, because I don't have proper adaptor for these strange connectors on Atmel-ICE and JTAG on Due.

With Due I can use only Atmel-ICE with JTAG and SAM-ICE with SWD.

This one was already fixed in an internal build. Case AVRSV-6690. Caused by a missing property in the project setting which was not checked for existence before it was parsed...

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@Morten,
Software often has a major version number, minor version number and a build number.
If you have any influence on the powers that be, could you suggest that AS6 or atfw tools display the version with either %d.%02d or with %×.%02x
Punters get very confused when you go from v3.08 to v3.2a when it says 3.8 to 3.2a
They might be less confused by going from v3.08 to v3.42
Yes, I can understand when firmware people like to purvey a sense of mystery.

Improvement request AVRSV-6701

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Hey there, i assume if I download the beta and then continue  to download the updates as they are available then I will end up with the final product when it released in the coming months?

Hope that makes sense.

 

paul 

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That's the thought smiley

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AVRSV-6675 - Infinite loop during device selection is fixed, it is now possible to close the dialog.

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clawson wrote:

Yup that ship sailed when Atmel abandoned AVR32 Studio (Eclipse based - potential for following "Studio"s to all be multi-OS) and sold their soul to the M$ machine.

 

M$ must be laughing all the way to the bank. We're now in a situation where if you want the full Atmel development experience you have to pay M$ for a licence to Win 7, 8, 8.1 and presumably shortly 10.

 

It doesn't seem that unusual to me that embedded developers need to get used to working on Windows.  Keil, TI's Code Composer Studio, IAR (seems like it)...

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Love your work Morten wink

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Windows for now though ARM DS-5 appears to be the future from ARM on Linux, OS X, and Windows.

AndyTallack wrote:
... TI's Code Composer Studio, ...
On Linux is possible though not for some older MCUs, older DSPs, and older debuggers.


 

DS-5 / Compare DS-5 Editions | ARM DS-5 Development Studio

http://ds.arm.com/ds-5/compare-ds-5-editions/

 

Product Pricing / Product Pricing | ARM DS-5 Development Studio

http://ds.arm.com/rfq/product-pricing/

Texas Instruments

Wiki

Linux Host Support CCSv6

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Linux_Host_Support_CCSv6

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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While still messing around with support trying to get debug working (possible conflict with VS2013 and VS2012,  or file permission issues) I tried to run AS7 "as administrator" and a lot of stuff disappears from the menu. Is this supposed to happen? I would have thought that running a program as administrator would be the best possible scenario for a program.

 

John Samperi

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A lot of Windows programs have a Basic/Advanced menu choice that is "per user". Switching to a different user maybe that one defaults to "Basic". Is there something like "show advanced" on the File menu? (might be Tools or Help).

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Can't see "show advanced". However in Properties for AS7 I have 4 "profiles??" under security.

 

SYSTEM has all Permissions ticked but Special permissions

John Samperi has Special permissions ONLY ticked and that would be the profile the computer would run under I guess.

Administrators is like SYSTEM

Interactive has only "Read & execute" and Read ticked.

 

So does "Special permissions" trump everything? After all I am the king...... or am I being disrespected?

John Samperi

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Hello!

 

I´m trying to use #include <avr/eeprom.h> with Atmel Studio 7 with no luck. If I call any function from this library I always get this error message:

 

undefined reference to `__eeupd_byte_m164p'

 

No problem with Atmel Studio 6. 

 

Any suggestions where to look?

Good Soldering JRGandara

Last Edited: Sat. Jul 11, 2015 - 08:58 PM
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Post deleted as requested. Maybe related to this?? https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/a...

John Samperi

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Last Edited: Sun. Jul 12, 2015 - 07:54 PM
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Will Studio 7 co-exist with Studio 6.2 peacefully?

Last Edited: Sun. Jul 12, 2015 - 08:22 PM
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No idea, still can't get AS7 to work in debug mode. It's suffering from "error code 89710015" which seems to have been around for many years and it stops debug in Visual Studio and not just Atmel Studio but any kind of debugger according to Google.

 

Fortunately AS4 is not affected by this bug. devil

John Samperi

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Could this be a solution?

 

https://www.avrfreaks.net/comment...

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You must have $12/month DSL for those horrid speeds circa 1980's.

 

Got Cable Modem?

 

Last Edited: Mon. Jul 13, 2015 - 01:56 AM
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Could this be a solution?

No, been through that with support already. Permissions are ok.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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You must have $12/month DSL

 I have $55.00  a month ADSL2+ plan, if I could get something better don't you think I would have got it already? It may be a year or 2 before cable is available in my street.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

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gandara wrote:

Hello!

 

I´m trying to use #include <avr/eeprom.h> with Atmel Studio 7 with no luck. If I call any function from this library I always get this error message:

 

undefined reference to `__eeupd_byte_m164p'

 

No problem with Atmel Studio 6. 

 

Any suggestions where to look?

 

Use the eeprom_update_byte function instead of hidden (mangled) name (__eeupd_byte_m164p).

Check the supported EEPROM functions here:

http://www.nongnu.org/avr-libc/u...

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js wrote:

Post deleted as requested. Maybe related to this?? https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/a...

John is right, it is covered in that thread - but let's not turn this into a cross post though. Any info about this eeprom.h bug should go into that thread. As I showed in post #11 there this is a serious fault in the build of AS7. They have introduced something called "DFP" and it is that which is causing the problems. (and the eeprom.h thing may be just the one visible thing among several hidden flaws).

 

@pitchumani, you appear to be working for Atmel on the AVR8 toolchain - right? You really need to look at the detail I just added to that other thread.

Last Edited: Mon. Jul 13, 2015 - 09:32 AM
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Links to new DFPs with eeprom.h (and similar issues probably) posted here: https://www.avrfreaks.net/comment...

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Last Edited: Mon. Jul 13, 2015 - 11:42 AM

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