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..waddaya mean the royal pain?... :)

Stay tuned something just come up. Back shortly.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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is that a tease or what :D

regards
Greg

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Clients! Just because they give you money.. :-)

The "experience" or was it a "journey" began at 6:50am with the registration and download of the full package, it ended at 9:15am with the package being updated to the latest SP1 and a first look at a sample program or almost 2.5H!! If I wasn't an Atmel fanboy I would consider the whole thing unacceptable.

Registration went smoothly with the email being promptly received, download took ~49 minutes with ADSL2.

Install, Windows updates (17MB) to keep AS6 happy and patch to 6.0.1882 (25MB) took me to 8:35am. Re-registration for the patch also went smoothly.

Download the extension manager update wasn't too smooth. Tried to log in without success, an email with my "forgotten password" was supposedly sent (twice) but never got it. The reason maybe that I was possibly never registered with that part of the site. :roll: Re-registered and the email this time came in promptly, however the confirmation link was not clickable, so had to copy and paste it into the browser. The update was succesful and by 9:15 I tried to get an example project running in the debugger. My head was hurting so had to stop.

Total downloads: 761MB AS6, 17MB win update, 25MB patch, 150MB SP1 = 952MB.

AS6 startup time ~10s with no project open. Not bad.

As I have been using AS4 for a long time I will need to get my head around things to get used to the IDE. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I have used Visual Studio before (VS2005) so it is semi familiar. Still think it's a complete bloatware for a microcontroller's IDE, but that's only me....and maybe a few more people. :-)

There seems to be some issue with the images for the Visual installer. Also Notorn's candid statement about the AS6 installer.

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John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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Ditto ... except I also had to download a service pack for the VS2010 stuff also. Still haven't got it all working. Complaints about the debugger not connecting...

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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I also had to download a service pack for the VS2010 stuff also.
That's the 17MB I mentioned above.

Since the install there has been another 12 automatic updates, don't know if they are Studio/Visual studio related though.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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It's not necessary to install the patch if you're about to install SP1 anyway, as the patch is included. I guess it wouldn't change your numbers to much, though...

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I managed to see the main computer and tranferred the AVR folder across. OMG I have collected 2GB of AVR stuff in 12 years. :shock:

So now I will try and tranfer and install both AS4.18 and winAvr (additional ot the above).

Are we ABSOLUTELY sure that the 2 Studios will not interfere with each other?
The plan is that I can keep AS4 for work related stuff and use my tools with it only, and use a partially working Dragon (DW only) to mess around with imported project into AS6. (using different folders?)

I guess the JTAGICE Mk3 which we are supposed to get at the seminar will be used with AS6.

The main desktop and old laptop will stay untouched untill I'm happy with AS6, if ever.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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Are we ABSOLUTELY sure that the 2 Studios will not interfere with each other?

Yes, I have both running side by side in the same virtual machine.
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I guess the JTAGICE Mk3 which we are supposed to get at the seminar will be used with AS6.

You don't get a choices. The whole point is that he ICE3 *only* works with AS6. When AS5 was a bucket of poo this was very bad news but now that AS6 is pretty good I doubt it's an issue. With the Dragon (and other Atmel tools) be warned that as you switch between AS4 and AS6 you'll be upgrading/downgrading the firmware each time to match so probably best to pick specific tools and have them only work with AS4 or AS6.

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as you switch between AS4 and AS6 you'll be upgrading/downgrading
The plan so far:
Use the older semiworking Dragon and the future JTAG Mk3 with AS6 and all my other tools with AS4.

I will only be using AS6 during playtime and not for real stuff. Some of my clients have AS4 installed and working and I will not ask them to change to AS6.

One of them is at a distance and does his own small changes to the main code as he has the hardware. (VERY BIG, can't have one in my workshop)

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly