AS6 restart needed to see SAMD20/D21/R21 Xplained Pro boards

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Posted by awneil: Wed. Jul 2, 2014 - 02:15 PM
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If I plug-in a SAMD20/D21/R21 board while AS6 is already open, it probably won't see it - I will need to restart Studio.

I say "probably" because sometimes (very occasionally) it does see it!

This is specifically 6.2 beta, but I'm pretty sure 6.1 also did it.

I thought I'd seen this posted before, but couldn't find it.

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Posted by meolsen: Wed. Jul 2, 2014 - 02:25 PM
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Try 6.2 full, the USB detection was changed to avoid this issue...

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Posted by awneil: Wed. Jul 2, 2014 - 02:45 PM
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meolsen wrote:
Try 6.2 full, the USB detection was changed to avoid this issue...

So it was a known issue, and has been specifically addressed?

I'm in the middle of stuff at the moment, so not convenient to update - hence still on 6.2 beta.

But I do have the "full" version on another machine - will try it...

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Posted by meolsen: Wed. Jul 2, 2014 - 03:18 PM
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So it was a known issue, and has been specifically addressed?

Among others. The USB event of 'connected' has a tendency to arrive before drivers have been registered, causing the detection to bail. Now there's a timed retry for quite some time to cater for the driver registration (think we check each couple of second for 5-6 minutes after a connected event is sent by windows).

In addition to that, there was a race/lock condition in the detector. Part is that serial numbers are not available on connect time, but on driver enum time, but there's a long story of windows screwing (changing) how detection is done (think we are on the 5th or 6th iteration of the detection system).

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Posted by awneil: Sat. Sep 27, 2014 - 10:42 PM (Reply to #3)
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awneil wrote:
I'm in the middle of stuff at the moment, so not convenient to update - hence still on 6.2 beta.

So now trying the update - it does not work!

 

angry

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Posted by awneil: Sat. Sep 27, 2014 - 10:56 PM (Reply to #5)
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awneil wrote:
trying the update - it does not work!

 

See: https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/s...

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Posted by awneil: Mon. Nov 3, 2014 - 02:13 PM
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Despite its best efforts to frustrate all progress, I have finally managed to get the project updated to work with 6.2 full (6.2.1153)

 

angry

 

I think the board detection is better - but it is still pretty flaky!

 

sad

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Posted by clawson: Mon. Nov 3, 2014 - 04:25 PM
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You do know that 6.1.1520 not 6.2.1153 is the latest issued version don't you? (aka "SP1").

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Posted by awneil: Tue. Nov 4, 2014 - 10:16 AM
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It is now, but wasn't at the time I started this thread. Nor even at the time I started trying to do the update.

 

Question about the SP1 here: https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/a...

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Posted by awneil: Tue. Nov 4, 2014 - 10:17 AM
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Try link again:

 

https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/atmel-studio-62-and-62-sp1

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Posted by awneil: Tue. Nov 4, 2014 - 01:58 PM
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I've just run-up Studio 6.2.1502 - aka "SP1" - and then plugged-in an R21 Xpro.

 

It has not been detected.

 

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I think it needs a "rescan for tools" option...

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Posted by awneil: Tue. Nov 4, 2014 - 04:31 PM
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In fact, SP1 seems a lot worse!

 

It doesn't detect the EDBG being plugged-in while it's running, and often doesn't even see it after a restart!

(despite the fact that the ATPROGRAM command-line utility can see it fine)

 

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At least the beta would reliably see it after a restart!

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Posted by awneil: Wed. Nov 12, 2014 - 12:02 AM
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There's recently been an update. 

 

It does seem to be better now - but still not entirely reliable.

 

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Posted by awneil: Fri. Nov 21, 2014 - 09:13 AM (Reply to #13)
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awneil wrote:
It  [AS 6.2 SP1] doesn't detect the EDBG being plugged-in while it's running, and often doesn't even see it after a restart!

In that situation, I found that it needed a complete restart of the PC before the board would ever be seen again.

 

 

awneil wrote:
There's recently been an update.

To the "Kits"

 

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It does seem to be better now

Yes, it is very much better now - only very rarely seeing problems, and then just a Studio restart fixes it.

 

smiley

 

I still think a facility to manually initiate a scan for tools would be useful...

 

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