Jtagice3 sale? (Oct 3 2012)

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I just saw the Jtagice3 for $91 on Atmel's site, and $96 on Mouser. This appears to be less than half the normal price. Is it a temporary sale price, or the new norm?

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Is it a temporary sale price, or the new norm?

Past history suggests a temporary sale. The best one ever was when they sold $599 AVR One for $199. It lasted about 2 months.

In years gone by Arrow used to regularly do the $299 JTAGICEmkII for $149 - that happened several times. But it seems all Atmel instigated offers tend to be "one time only".

So I'd snap it up at that price while it's still available.

EDIT: Actually, looking at:

http://store.atmel.com/PartDetai...

in the past when Atmel have done offers there's been a marker saying "Sale" or "Offer" or something - the fact that it's not showing suggests maybe this IS a permanent change?

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Of course I was clever, I bought a new laptop to run AS6 ($460.00), registered for the Atmel seminar ($90.00) and will get a JTAG Mk3 for free at the seminar...... :? :roll:

John Samperi

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https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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If I wanted one, I would buy it at that price - and I would do it right away.

The sweet deal on the AvrONE ended without warning.

If you live in the US you may save a bit by paying Mouser $96 instead of paying Atmel $91. Mouser charges less for shipping, adds no sales tax and ships from the US. (You probably have to pay sales tax if you live in a state where Mouser does business.)

Sid

Life... is a state of mind

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Mouser charges less for shipping
$0.00 for Australian orders of $200.00 or more, so 2 of those plus a couple of chips will be over the threshold.

Just have to get together with someone else or have faith that you will blow up one pretty quickly. :-)

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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So, other than PDI support for the full Xmega line, what advantages does the JTAGICE3 have over the Dragon?

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Somewhat more robust I guess, it also supports all PDI chips while the Dragon only supports some.

On the minus side it only works with AS6 for now....

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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So, other than PDI support for the full Xmega line, what advantages does the JTAGICE3 have over the Dragon?

It is a crapload - a CRAPLOAD - faster for programming and debugging. Other than that the Dragon actually has more programming protocols (High Voltage Paralell/Serial programming). The JTAG-ICE3 does PDI programming where the Dragon only semi does it.

- Dean :twisted:

Make Atmel Studio better with my free extensions. Open source and feedback welcome!

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A little OT:

OK - so I'm a simpleton (fully paid up) CVAVR user using STK500 (from CV menus) or USBASP/AVRDUDE (from cmd line) for programming and have a precious Studio 4.18 installed that works well for ASM coding and general AVR fuse setting etc (and I'm paranoid about losing with 5.x, 6.x upgrades). I also have a Dragon for programming that seems (seemed?) too hard to use from CVAVR/when it was working was boringly slow.

Never tried debugging with Dragon - again paranoid about losing contact with the AVR if I press a button wrong somewhere (from what I read here)

For debugging I seem to (just about) get by with LEDs and printf's

So can I use a Jtagice3 with this some or all of existing stuff? Would I really, really benefit? How do I actually do symbolic debugging of a CVAVR app etc. Please?

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How do I actually do symbolic debugging of a CVAVR app etc. Please?
You simply DON'T.

CVAVR produces the file which gets loaded into Studio "whateverversion" and then you debug from within Studio.

At the moment if you need to fix some bugs you need to go back to CV, fix and recompile and back to Studio as before.

Ideally when/if/with CV getting integrated into AS6 this dance will no longer be required and you will use CV from within Studio.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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@zoidicus: Thank you for the heads up! Order placed. :D

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Yes. You are definitely off-topic!

Yes. I agree that ISP programming using the Dragon appears slow from CV. It does work, and the time is not unreasonable.

Earlier CodeVision Help explains how to use AS4.19 to debug the generated project.cof.
You step, break, watch, in the normal way.
IMHO, AS4.19 works far better with CV COFF files than avr-gcc ELF files. All your variables are watchable.

The current CodeVision Help explains how to use AS6.0 to debug the generated project.cof.
The debugging side is slicker than AS4.19 but the "Import COFF object" procedure is a pain.

With either Studio, you do debugging just fine. However the source code is read-only, so you can't change from Studio. You make your edits in the CodeVision editor and rebuild in CodeVision.

Studio recognises a newly built COFF file, so will restart the debugger when necessary.

Since you possess an STK500 and a Dragon, I suggest that you install AS6.0 and give CV debugging a go. You can recover from anything via the STK500 (painlessly).

David.

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So can I use a Jtagice3 with this some or all of existing stuff?

It *only* works with AS6(*) so you will have to install that to use the ICE3 (though you don't have to use it for anything else if you are happy/familiar with the tools you use already).

(*) actually maybe it works with IAR and Rowley too? But I guess that's irrelevant for your situation.

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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JohanEkdahl wrote:
@zoidicus: Thank you for the heads up! Order placed. :D

(A Gibson LP just got pushed off this years spendings.. :sad:)

You are welcome! I got one too; my first ever debugger. No more !@#$pile of print() statements. :)

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Mine landed today. Yummy! (Albeit the somewhat "tacky" housing it comes in.)

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"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]