An AVR in SOT-23 package

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I was looking onto the Microchip site for some memories, when I stumbled upon this :
http://www.microchip.com/stellen...

PIC10F200 - a processor in a SOT-23 package makining it ultimately small. Is there any chance someone from Atmel product development or something like that will hear my plea and make a SOT-23 packed AVR...? (i know not) It would great to have a transistor sized processor in say ineligent blinkers, serial transmiters, simple controllers etc, programmed by debugWire. When you have a processor 3x3mm it is great...

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debugWire needs ISP in order to turn off the DWEN
fuse. Not everybody would love their applications
being debugged by their customers...

Anyway, even ISP would minimally only require a 6-pin
package, so that should be doable with a SOT-23.

Jörg Wunsch

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For the current geometry, it might be a tight/impossible fit. This is a Tiny13 die next to a BC857 transistor and a SOT23-5 packaged comparator (same package as the PIC). Notice that the die is wider than the SOT23-5 package.

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When you have a processor 3x3mm it is great...

I suppose. While the 4x4mm of the Tiny45 and cousins or Tiny13 is 75% larger in space, it is only 1mm larger in each direction and has 5/6 I/O (and lots more resources).

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> This is a Tiny13 die next to a BC857 transistor ...

Hmm, I don't think the ATtiny13 is manufactured in the
most recent technology. It would be more interesting
to compare it with an ATtiny25 or such.

Jörg Wunsch

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Is there any chance someone from Atmel product development or something like that will hear my plea and make a SOT-23 packed AVR...?

Looks like your plea was answered this year with attiny10... bit of a shame that they chopped off debugWire, EEPROM and normal ISP to make it fit.

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What I don't get is why not fix the dW standard.
Make it:
- Only option and Default
- Support full programming
- Support debug

Let it also be self clocking by using phase-delay or such for data carrier. Rising edge phase is data from programmer/debugger to mcu and falling edge is data from mcu to programmer/debugger.

1 wire should be all we need for these tasks, regardless of fuse settings and clock sources.