Quoth the Raven!

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clawson wrote:

> Does Joerg work for Atmel? I never realised that!

Well, I simply tried to not make too much fuzz about it...

Jörg Wunsch

Please don't send me PMs, use email if you want to approach me personally.

Last Edited: Fri. Feb 29, 2008 - 10:56 AM
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@fastbakken

My guess for the Raven's name is either "Hugin" or "Munin"

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All,

Let us try a new contest:

The RZRAVEN kit has its name from the Norse mythodology after Odin's two scouting ravens (Huginn and Muninn). The RZRAVEN kit will be sold for $99, but what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?

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I must admit these boards are fantastic. I was looking at the Meshnetics modules before for some dev work but these boards are so much better and will have loads of support from Freaks projects.

Is there going to be a project competition with these kits...and a wiki for them?

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magnusp wrote:
All,

Let us try a new contest:

The RZRAVEN kit has its name from the Norse mythodology after Odin's two scouting ravens (Huginn and Muninn). The RZRAVEN kit will be sold for $99, but what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?

An eye?

Dave

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Did they cost him an eye?

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but what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?
Nothing. He's a GOD! :-D

Anyway, did you get my PM? I hope I'm eligible for one of those beauties.

PS: Thanks ATMEL!

There are pointy haired bald people.
Time flies when you have a bad prescaler selected.

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GroovBird wrote:

An eye?

No, he payed the eye to be able to look in Mimir's well
(the well of knowledge). But perhaps the ravens where
thrown in the deal, as a 2 for 1 bargain ;-).

/Robert

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Having read this thread I find myself saddend by a distinct lack of exposure to norse mythology. I have also been thoroughly entertained, almost as much as I am by the Raven toys themselves. Can't wait to get my hands on one. (though I guess i'll need two for a radio link)

Steve

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Tatraplan wrote:
GroovBird wrote:

An eye?

No, he payed the eye to be able to look in Mimir's well
(the well of knowledge). But perhaps the ravens where
thrown in the deal, as a 2 for 1 bargain ;-).

/Robert

Well, that's what I could find. I didn't find anything about Odin's due to the birds, so my suspicion was that perhaps they were part of his search for knowledge. Perhaps the quizmaster thought of this answer.

I'd feel guilty asking for a free kit, as I'm not the designer-behind-the-next-ipod type of guy, so I thought I might try to beat the game to do some research.

Dave

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I think the ravens represent wisdom - thought and memory. Thus in is quest for wisdom he gave an eye?

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Odin had to pay an apple. Or three ? Has to do with eternal youth ....
Too long ago I read the Edda ...

Nard

Edit: Freya was her name

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Splendid idea Colin !

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Thread has been split. The new thread for discussion of using the raven, starting from microcarl's post, is at:

https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

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Odin had to give up his eye (with thanks to my brother)

Nard

A GIF is worth a thousend words   They are called Rosa, Sylvia, Tricia, and Ulyana. You can find them https://www.linuxmint.com/

Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

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Did Odin give up an Eye at Mímir's spring for the birds?

Anyways, we are looking into using wireless transmission of sensor data from a track inspector on an automated cart system. This looks like a intersting idead, having inexpensive collection stations along he way where the carts stop to collect data stored onboard. As the board a have 2M of storage, the kit would have everything needed for a prototype. All thas needed is to add a 3 way accelerometer and a photo eye that counts track support bars for location information.

Even if I wouldn't be eligeble for a freebee kit I would be interedted in when and where I could get my hands on one of there kits?

Mikael

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magnusp wrote:
what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?

Ok, this is extremely fare fetched, but he had to pay with worries and fear?

I worry lest Hugin should fall in flight,
yet more I fear for Munin.

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.

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These two ravens flyed around the earth and reported everything to Odin, in order to get a kind of wisdom/knowledge.

Wikipedia wrote:
Old Norse:

Huginn ok Muninn fliúga hverian dag

iörmungrund yfir;
óomk ek of Huginn, at hann aptr ne komit,
þó siámk meirr um Muninn.

English:

The whole world wide, every day,
fly Hugin and Munin;
I worry lest Hugin should fall in flight,
yet more I fear for Munin.


Hugin=thought; Munin=memory;
=> Therefore he fears memory even more.
As he is the raven-god, I aspect that he didn't had to pay anything naturalistic for the ravens' services.

Wikipedia wrote:
Odin sacrificed his eye (which eye he sacrificed is unclear) at Mímir's spring in order to gain the Wisdom of Ages.

Therefore he paid an eye to Mimir to get wisdom. Perhaps he did the deal with Mimir, because he fears the loss of memory so much.

To get a bit poetic (or something like that :wink: ) Odin paid care/fear for the ravens, especially Munin (the memory one)?

UC3 => You see free [to your release] :D

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ArnoldB wrote:
Ok, this is extremely fare fetched, but he had to pay with worries and fear?

:shock: same time, same idea?? :D

UC3 => You see free [to your release] :D

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cguru wrote:
ArnoldB wrote:
Ok, this is extremely fare fetched, but he had to pay with worries and fear?

:shock: same time, same idea?? :D
See, those expensive psychic power courses come in handy sometimes :)

Stealing Proteus doesn't make you an engineer.

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Here's all I was able to find (already been said):

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Odin also sacrificed one of his eyes, in order to drink from Mimir's well of knowledge and memory. It seems that in exchange for his eye - as well as drinking from the well he received two ravens as his totemic animals. Huginn is the raven for thought, while Muginn is the raven for memory. They accompany Odin wherever he goes.

Chuck Baird

"I wish I were dumber so I could be more certain about my opinions. It looks fun." -- Scott Adams

http://www.cbaird.org

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ArnoldB wrote:
See, those expensive psychic power courses come in handy sometimes :)

hehe :D
Perhaps the old norse spirit, revived in a developing tool, touched us :wink:

Definitely an interesting excursion :D

UC3 => You see free [to your release] :D

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GroovBird wrote:
magnusp wrote:
All,

Let us try a new contest:

The RZRAVEN kit has its name from the Norse mythodology after Odin's two scouting ravens (Huginn and Muninn). The RZRAVEN kit will be sold for $99, but what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?

An eye?

Dave

I would say $45 and $25 :)

Embedded Dreams
One day, knowledge will replace money.

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Oh I realize these two raven clients represent Hugin and Munin :o

Therefore the Hugin/Memory/Raven Client should cost a bit more than the Munin one :D

UC3 => You see free [to your release] :D

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I thought I remembered the price, but by Odin's ghost, I don't.

The birds have flown the coop. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Chuck Baird

"I wish I were dumber so I could be more certain about my opinions. It looks fun." -- Scott Adams

http://www.cbaird.org

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magnusp wrote:
Forumfriends -
I do not have the time to get back to all of you that have contacted me over the last couple of days, so I will use this opportunity to confirm that everyone that has a PM with shipping details in my inbox right now will receive their RZRAVEN kits shortly.

Thanks again for the TREMENDOUS interest in the RZRAVEN kit !!!

Regards,
Magnus @ ESC Nuremberg

This is EXACTLY the reason for Atmel's popularity. Generously helping people to get started doing real world application development for a reasonable price (or sometimes even FREE!) that will surely lead a great deal of business in Atmel's direction in the future. And they deserve every nibble of it.

-Sale

Sauli Särkkä
Oulunsalo, Finland

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I would like one too. I already have the TI eZ430-RF2500 kit and it would be interesting to compare the two.

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zbaird wrote:
I thought I remembered the price, but by Odin's ghost, I don't.

The birds have flown the coop. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Not good, if you're going to be messing with the Ravens.

It's got to be CRS disease...

You can avoid reality, for a while.  But you can't avoid the consequences of reality! - C.W. Livingston

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magnusp wrote:
All,

Let us try a new contest:

The RZRAVEN kit has its name from the Norse mythodology after Odin's two scouting ravens (Huginn and Muninn). The RZRAVEN kit will be sold for $99, but what did Odin have to pay for Huginn and Muninn?

Odin gets the ravens as a gift from the three norns. So he have nothing to pay.
Same here, posters getting the ravens for free :D

Frank

Programmers never die
they just GOSUB without RETURN

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Hel, youngest daughter of Loki (by Angrboda), gave Odin the ravens. They were a gift for his banishment of her to the underworld (she was a happy camper there).

Chuck Baird

"I wish I were dumber so I could be more certain about my opinions. It looks fun." -- Scott Adams

http://www.cbaird.org

Last Edited: Fri. Feb 29, 2008 - 10:08 PM
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Odin wanted kangaroos,koala bears etc. the ravens were SO NUMEROUS they were declared as a noxious species and were to be exterminated...exterminated...exterminated...exterminated...

...must have got 2 shows mixed up...hmmm...

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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While maybe not the source of all the knowledge of the world, I still find this place to truly be a Well of knowledge and wisdom too. I think even Oden would be proud! Yet the best thing about it is that we don't even have to sacrifice any eyes to learn from it!

Thanks to Atmel for hosting this great resource (and for making some great hitech products as well), and of course to all posters who contribute your bits and nuggets of the wisdom herein.

/Mathias

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Slightly off the wall... but I'm sure I've seen somewhere research suggesting that corvids in general and rooks and ravens in particular are considered among the most intelligent of birds; in some case using twigs as tools.

Pray they don't learn to solder... :o

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the ravens were SO NUMEROUS

The Raven
by Elizabeth Barrett Poe

How numerous art thee? Let me count the ways.
Thou art hither, and yon, and besmirch the very ground upon which my dainty feet must walk.
Thou art even upon my midnight dreary, with thy look of sorrow and hateful "caw!"
Be off then, Hugin, and take thy wretched soul mate Munin, too.
Fly away to Oz, to Neverland, to that place of no edelweiss,
and there rest upon those foreign shores.
In any event, get the hell out of my life.

But the ravens, never flitting, sat there sitting, still are sitting,
Leaving Odin's mind to wonder and to wander evermore.
When shall they leave, when shall they go?
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

Chuck Baird

"I wish I were dumber so I could be more certain about my opinions. It looks fun." -- Scott Adams

http://www.cbaird.org

Last Edited: Fri. Feb 29, 2008 - 10:25 PM
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Yet the best thing about it is that we don't even have to sacrifice any eyes to learn from it!
Depends on the type of monitor you're using. Those CRTs really do their stuff.

As for the ravens, I can't deside what's cooler on them. The Communication, the processor, or the fact that there's a actual hole in the fabric of the display to place a LED underneath it...

There are pointy haired bald people.
Time flies when you have a bad prescaler selected.

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zbaird:

Quote:

The birds have flown the coop. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Which Stack was that Raven using???

JC

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Quote:
Fly away to Oz, to Neverland, to that place of no edelweiss,
hmmm I can see the use of a remote controlled roo...avr based of course..

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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zbaird wrote:
What we have here is a failure to communicate.

"... Some men you just can't reach! So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it...
Well, he gets it!"

Going a bit off-topic here, but that is one classic movie quote! Now I gotta run out and rent it so I can see it again.

"I don't like it... any more than you men."

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In the wild ravens and wolves are often found near each other, which makes sense since the wolves being major predators tend to leave tasty :roll: snacks behind after they are done eating. It also appears the ravens actually help the wolves locate prey. Ravens are not your average "dumb" bird 8).

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zbaird wrote:
Hel, youngest daughter of Loki (by Angrboda), gave Odin the ravens. They were a gift for his banishment of her to the underworld (she was a happy camper there).

Oh, so that's what all those folks mean when they tell me to 'go to Hel'.

Smiley

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Mike B:

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It also appears the ravens actually help the wolves locate prey. Ravens are not your average "dumb" bird .

Yes, but can they locate Bugs, too?
JC

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Yes, but can they locate Bugs, too?

Certainly. Bugs or any other wabbit. Ravens have good eyes.

Lee

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Wow Magnus,

A kit is very much appreciated.
PM send.

Cheers,

Nick

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Well, I just bought a pair of Butterfly's and was working on how they were going to communicate with the Host.
Now, I will use Raven and work on my application instead.
Looks Great!!

Mike...

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Hope I'm not to late. Just sent PM.

I'm recently retired and a relative newbie to AVR. The learning is helping to keep my mind challenged.

Thanks again.

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Looks like a great board to play with and create some cool stuff. I have been using lynx stuff for a while, but this could make me think twice. Where do you order them? And how much is the development kit cost?

Jim

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Comment to Magnus.

My PM to you is still sitting in my Outbox (here). Several others have commented that theirs are also. Should we send again?

Thanks,

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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valusoft wrote:
Comment to Magnus.

My PM to you is still sitting in my Outbox (here). Several others have commented that theirs are also. Should we send again?

Thanks,

I am also having the same problem. I posted a question in the 'AVRFreaks Non-Tech issues' forum asking if there may be an issue or if this is standard functionality until the user opens the PM.

https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...

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Same here - still sitting in out box after 24+ hours

---Bill Tuttle

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Darn, this is the kind of the thing you miss when you promise the s.o. you'll try to spend less time on the internets. Very impressed with Atmtel and their support of the avr community.

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