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What is with all these new folks with one post suddenly showing up?

BTW - the mods do have an option to see the IP address of each post, then also seeing other users posting from the same IP. Hence It is pretty easy to get an idea who is faking... also anything with a Feb 26/27th join date is pretty suspicious ;-)

But I only see one post of all those that meets that criteria... a lot of people seem to have accounts registered some time ago they just don't use!

-Colin

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@Eivind:

That means that I'm in? Should I send any information to Magnus in order to receive the kit?

If yes, then !Wow! Atmel is great!!

Guillem.
"Common sense is the least common of the senses" Anonymous.

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Impressed with the documentation.
Is there an Atmel datasheet on PCB antenna design?

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So in theory, what can you make them do?

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I want to know how to convert it into a wireless ATAVRISP, so I can run around the shop programming boards without any cables. Now that would be a useful appnote for it. I might even be able to talk the boss into buying some if that would work. I would need bi-directional 19.2k serial with it too. Would it be feasible?

I like cats, too. Let's exchange recipes.

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I'm pretty shure that ISP programming through them would be really appreciated. Specially if with one PC one can program few different uC/systems 'at once'. Mmmm, perhaps it's time to start my own business? ;)

My first use to them would be a transparent comm port also.

Guillem.
"Common sense is the least common of the senses" Anonymous.

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Is there an Atmel datasheet on PCB antenna design?

At least something-- http://www.atmel.com/products/zi...
AVR2006: Design and characterization of the Radio Controller Board's 2.4GHz PCB Antenna

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Antenna design appnote is AVR 2006.
Schematics and PCB design files are part of the hardware documentation for Raven.

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Wow, I am impressed -- looks like a great kit -- now where to get one?? :shock:

Dr. David Harris OpenLCB Development Team openlcb.org

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Price is apparently $99.

I tried to get one from my local rep, but they haven't got them in yet :-(

/Jesper
http://www.yampp.com
The quick black AVR jumped over the lazy PIC.
What boots up, must come down.

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Does anyone (Smiley?) know what the maximum dead reliable range is with the existing pcb ant? I have to many toys, but this is to good to pass up, although I am little late to the party.

Rick

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ninevoltz9 wrote:
I want to know how to convert it into a wireless ATAVRISP, so I can run around the shop programming boards without any cables. Now that would be a useful appnote for it. I might even be able to talk the boss into buying some if that would work. I would need bi-directional 19.2k serial with it too. Would it be feasible?

Holy crap, that's a great idea. Right now I do most of the code writing in the living room on a PC running Windows (my fiancee's) but using VNC to my linux box in the back room. Then when I think I've got it right I program the chip and run to the back room to see if things are running as I thought they would.

If I could figure out how to make it a wireless isp extender I wouldn't have to leave my comfy couch.

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Forumfriends -
I do not have the time to get back to all of you that have contacted me over the last couple of days, so I will use this opportunity to confirm that everyone that has a PM with shipping details in my inbox right now will receive their RZRAVEN kits shortly.

Thanks again for the TREMENDOUS interest in the RZRAVEN kit !!!

Regards,
Magnus @ ESC Nuremberg

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And thank you for your generosity and support of the AVRFreaks forum. This is the kind of thing that makes coming to AVRFreaks such a joy. :D

Smiley

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Is this going to turn out to be the next Butterfly? I still haven't gotten around to getting one of those but I've seen a fair bit of love for that product.

They still offering it to people asking for it from this thread?

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Wow, I think I may have missed this by 30 minutes lol. I gotta stop lurking. Sometimes more fun reading the conversations than posting. Step away from a thread for a day and poof, miss the offer by 30 minutes. Product looks pretty cool all the same. I'm sure we'll be hearing a bit about people using this product over next few months. Help spread the knowledge to the less fortunate ones...hehe :wink:

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I would need bi-directional 19.2k serial with it too.

You could do that. The RF230 has a datarate of around 250 kbits/s. There will be some overhead and whatnot, but you should be able to cram that down the pipe. It's obviously not full-duplex like a serial port could be, but I assume that would be OK.

-Colin

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I still haven't spotted any range information... And would it be possible to make the two remote units to talk with each others without the USB part? This maybe a stupid question but one must start from somewhere. :)

edit: stupid me. As the remote units have tranceivers, there should be no problem on getting them to talk to each others.

Too bad I missed the offer for the free kit. Don't think the online stores will have them for weeks. :(

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eivind wrote:
Sorry if I missed something, but did Magnus specify somewhere that a Raven kit goes to each of those who made an entry to this thread BEFORE his entry? 8)

Cheers everybody;
Eivind

Huhh

**** Scramble ON ******

Eivind ... jeg må lige quote Asterix

Quote:
De er skøre/tossede de "Vikinger" .... :-)

**** Scramble OFF ******

But just to be sure :-)

Thanx ATMEL

/Bingo

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The eval kit seems pretty flexible. Ability to go Board to Board or Board to PC (2.4Ghz transceivers). My question is does the kit come with schematics to help in using the boards as a reference design. Not sure if that is the ATMEL way of doing things.

These are for low power designs - no?

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@rocketman49

Schematics are here
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resourc...

The "Kit" page is here
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/product...

/Bingo

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I'm missing any information about ATmega1284P. Probably I have a brain fart. With all this new information (Raven, Xmegas), I had collapsed into an Xmega-headache ;)

Guillem.
"Common sense is the least common of the senses" Anonymous.

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> I still haven't spotted any range information...

My first test: One Raven in the house and the other one in the garden about 40 meter away is no problem. A phantastic toy! :-)

But the temperature sensor isn't working in both devices correctly... (shows only 1 to 3 degree C)

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From a very quiet avrfreak from Mexico City (this is my first post) but a big fan and user of Atmel products (going all the way to the "old" days of the stk200 and 90s8515 with the little help of the ICE200 and now proud owner and user of 2 stk500 - I never know when something is going to blow out - a jtagice mkii, a dragon, 2 butterflies and everything that atmel puts through digi-key I would like to get one Raven kit. Does my post qualifies ?. But most important do you know when are goint to be available for purchase ?. By the way, I want to thank all of you. I have learnt a lot.

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leonidmclord wrote:
> I still haven't spotted any range information...

My first test: One Raven in the house and the other one in the garden about 40 meter away is no problem. A phantastic toy! :-)

But the temperature sensor isn't working in both devices correctly... (shows only 1 to 3 degree C)

So, where'd you get one?

Smiley

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Bingo600 wrote:
@rocketman49

Schematics are here
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resourc...

The "Kit" page is here
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/product...

/Bingo

Perfect - Thanks, exactly what I wanted.

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>So, where'd you get one?

I was at the embedded world in Nuernberg on Tuesday. I talked to the guy from Atmel about half an hour and I was fascinated! I asked if it is possible to get a sample for my university where I study. Then he gave me one kit. One point more for Atmel, what a nice company! Now I try to examine the kit and the documentation.

PS: Switching off the debug mode makes the temperature sensor working - RTFM :-)

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barney_1 wrote:
ninevoltz9 wrote:
I want to know how to convert it into a wireless ATAVRISP, so I can run around the shop programming boards without any cables. Now that would be a useful appnote for it. I might even be able to talk the boss into buying some if that would work. I would need bi-directional 19.2k serial with it too. Would it be feasible?

Holy crap, that's a great idea. Right now I do most of the code writing in the living room on a PC running Windows (my fiancee's) but using VNC to my linux box in the back room. Then when I think I've got it right I program the chip and run to the back room to see if things are running as I thought they would.

If I could figure out how to make it a wireless isp extender I wouldn't have to leave my comfy couch.


Just the simple over-the-air serial port is an excellent idea. From my set of devices I communicate through a serial port I think the 1st one I would "port" to the Raven would be my milling machine. Now I can put that noisy bugger far away from my think-room :)

But the Raven is a much more resourceful machine, putting it working as a serial over-the-air port will under-use it so, any more complex ideas? What else interesting can we do with 2 little pieces of hardware that can work remotely and can I/O sound, digital, read temperatures and voltages and display text and symbols, while communicating with a base station or with each other? The possibilities for this little boards seem to be quite huge...

Embedded Dreams
One day, knowledge will replace money.

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phew I'm exausted with all this reading...better lay down for a while...

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Wait, so if we posted before Magnus' giveaway post, have sent a PM with our details but not received any PM back - does that mean we don't get one?

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Does my post qualifies ?

You had to have posted *before* Magnus' giveaway post, not after.

- Dean :twisted:

Make Atmel Studio better with my free extensions. Open source and feedback welcome!

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have sent a PM with our details but not received any PM back - does that mean we don't get one?
Read Magnum's ( :? ) post a few back.

Of course you all realise that our status will change form "Raving lunatic" to "RAVEN lunatic" now.....

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

https://www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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I thought you were taking a nap.

Chuck Baird

"I wish I were dumber so I could be more certain about my opinions. It looks fun." -- Scott Adams

http://www.cbaird.org

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Friends,

Just to be clear - everybody on this thread with a post + PM to me with shipping details will receive their own RZRAVEN kit shortly.

All the positive feedback and the chance to meet some of you in person in Germany this week, has been a very nice experience and great motivation for me and the AVR Wireless team.

Thanks again for your tremendous interest in the RZRAVEN kit.

Kind regards,
Magnus @ ESC Nuremberg

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Magnusp, have you checked your PMs lately? I sent you a PM that has been sitting untransfered/read in my PM outbox since yesterday. Normally, I would PM a question like this, except..... :)

Chuck, it may have been me that was taking a nap :)!
________
Mike

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Mike B wrote:
Magnusp, have you checked your PMs lately? I sent you a PM that has been sitting untransfered/read in my PM outbox since yesterday. Normally, I would PM a question like this, except..... :)

________
Mike

Mike,

Your post has just caused me to look at whether my PM went also. It didn't. Still in the Outbox.

Thanks for the heads up.

Regards,

Ross McKenzie, Melbourne Australia

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magnusp, thanks for the generous offer you have provided everyone!

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The Raven sounds great. I read through the posts and didn't see any pricing. Anything on this yet?

---Bill Tuttle

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Mike,

Your post has just caused me to look at whether my PM went also. It didn't. Still in the Outbox.

Thanks for the heads up.

Mine is still in the outbox too.

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gryphonsmoon wrote:
The Raven sounds great. I read through the posts and didn't see any pricing. Anything on this yet?

I thought someone said 95$, not sure where I saw that.

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nanovate wrote:
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Mike,

Your post has just caused me to look at whether my PM went also. It didn't. Still in the Outbox.

Thanks for the heads up.

Mine is still in the outbox too.

I think the PM box may be full or the server queues the PM's and sends them in batches via a CRON job. I checked my PM outbox and it is also still waiting to be sent.

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Is this offer still available? I'd love to give one of these a try.

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Hi Magnus,

Might be a dumb question, but I've only seen mention of the "kits". Will the individual modules be made available for sale or will it just be full kits?

Thanks,
Mike

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I'd like one of these. Too bad I haven't found a source. Everything I need for an application...

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I have to take a micro controller course this summer at the university of Minnesota for my EE degree and unfortunately it is taught using pic chips from what I understand. It's too bad that Atmel can't get into more universities because it seems like they have a much bigger following outside of academia. If I don't get one for free, I'll have to see about acquiring a kit when they come out nationwide.

Matt

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Looks like a great setup. I've been looking to buy one, what vendors?

Sure, I'd take a free one too...javascript:emoticon(':D')

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Free Raven? Sign me up! The Butterfly got me into AVRs and I'd like to test the waters with wireless!

Math is cool.
jevinskie.com

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I've just recently started getting into wireless stuff. Mostly with some Nordic chips. These sound pretty cool. Is all the packet handling stuff taken care of? With the Nordic transcievers I was using they would do CRC, but no checking for dropped packets.

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Low power, so well suited for battery operation, wireless for remote control, display and 16 KByte RAM. Sure I like a kit.

It is very nice that we get 16K ram, I have been missing that in the past.

ekh

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magnusp wrote:
Friends,

Just to be clear - everybody on this thread with a post + PM to me with shipping details will receive their own RZRAVEN kit shortly.

This is the last time I get sick and miss reading AVRFreaks for 3 days. I can't believe I missed these two great announcements from Atmel. Next time my wireless laptop is staying next to me so I can read AVRFreaks and program a RZRaven while I'm at it. I'm interested in the mega1284 too.

--Mike

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I started with a butterfly from Smiley's site and got in on the Dragon and STK500 deal from Digikey. This new kit looks great. Hopefully this post and a PM will lead me to long nights of development with a new toy!

23LbBass

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I would guess Huginn or Muninn as the Raven's name. These were the raven "advisors" to Odin, the leader of the norse gods.

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