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Posted by sunjob: Thu. Dec 26, 2019 - 08:42 AM
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good day!

 

ATmeg328 datasheet

 

5.2.8. AREF
AREF is the analog reference pin for the A/D Converter.

 

5.2.9. ADC[7:6] (TQFP and VFQFN Package Only)

In the TQFP and VFQFN package, ADC[7:6] serve as analog inputs to the A/D converter. These pins are
powered from the analog supply and serve as 10-bit ADC channels.
 

inner pull-up is no exist ... 

what to do with unused these pins (AREF & ADC)?

 

I suppose that everything can be grounded, but how is it correct within the framework of the "AVR-architecture"?

 

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p.s.

similar to what to do with the pins of the ISP connector? (they are used only for programming, do not participate in the circuit)

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Posted by Kartman: Thu. Dec 26, 2019 - 10:27 AM
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AREF you can leave floating (ie no connection) if you are not using the ADC. The analog inputs are also port pins, so you can enable the pullups or set as outputs.

 

RESET has a pullup resistor, the other pins float.

 

 

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Posted by ki0bk: Thu. Dec 26, 2019 - 03:31 PM
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You can let all three of those pins float, I usually connect a 100nf cap to gnd on the AREF pin, it should never be connected to gnd or vcc.

On the M328p, ADC 6&7 are analog only pins, they can be left floating if not used.

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Posted by sunjob: Fri. Dec 27, 2019 - 08:02 AM
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highlighting in red, what kind of mechanism, what function does it carry?

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Posted by Kartman: Fri. Dec 27, 2019 - 11:57 AM
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It is called a ‘transmission gate’. It is basically the cmos version of a relay.

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Posted by sunjob: Fri. Dec 27, 2019 - 12:45 PM
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I do care what it's called !!! smiley

What function does it have?
 

What does it do, how does it function, what signals does it pass to, where does it not pass? in fact, we have a 4-pole ... with incomprehensible functionality

 

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Posted by ki0bk: Fri. Dec 27, 2019 - 04:11 PM
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sunjob wrote:
What does it do,

It is a transmistion gate, so when the control signal, coming from the top is high, it passes the signal on the left side to the right, actually, it will pass both directions, but in this case....

In this use, when SLEEP is low (not sleeping), the signal at the input pin passes through to the input latch, when SLEEP is high (Sleeping)

The input pin is disconnected and the fet grounds the input to prevent any noise from effecting the input latch.

Does that help?

It is explained in the text of the port pin description, frankly, I find the schematic most helpful, not all chip makers do this.

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Posted by sunjob: Sat. Dec 28, 2019 - 06:56 AM
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for me, best help, this sheme smiley

 

Transmission gate

 

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Posted by Kartman: Sat. Dec 28, 2019 - 07:04 AM
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As i said, the cmos equivalent of a relay!

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Posted by sunjob: Sat. Dec 28, 2019 - 07:09 AM
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... cmos equivalent of a relay...

does not say anything, for understanding, especially since we have 4-poles (four-pole), and the above diagram gives a complete picture of the work, the functionality of this element

 

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Posted by Kartman: Sat. Dec 28, 2019 - 07:54 AM
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I think something is getting lost in translation as a transmission gate is not 4 POLE. There may be 4 NODES, not POLES. 

 

 

The 4016 is the classic 4000 series cmos device with four of these transmission gates. See how they are drawn. Clearly single POLE.

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Posted by joeymorin: Wed. Jan 1, 2020 - 10:32 PM
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Kartman wrote:

The analog inputs are also port pins, so you can enable the pullups or set as outputs.

Note ADC[7:6] are ADC only, no GPIO.

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Posted by sunjob: Fri. Jan 3, 2020 - 12:59 PM
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5.2.8. AREF

5.2.9. ADC[7:6] (TQFP and VFQFN Package Only)

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Posted by El Tangas: Fri. Jan 3, 2020 - 03:50 PM
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Kartman wrote:
The 4016 is the classic 4000 series cmos device with four of these transmission gates.

Forgive my noobish question, my electronics is entirely self taught.

A "transmission gate" and an "analog switch" are the same circuit, right? That is, a NMOS and a PMOS in parallel, plus an inverter that keeps their gates in a complementary state.

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Posted by Kartman: Fri. Jan 3, 2020 - 05:15 PM (Reply to #14)
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Indeed they are. Just like Zoolander all over again!

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