Anyone have some ATLERA EPM7064STC44-10N they do not want?

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Hey All,

  I have an OLD, I mean OLD design that a last run of boards is being asked for.  Sadly the CPLD on the board is no longer made.  YES, I have gone through OCTOPART and I have a few RFQs made, but I'd rather pay a fellow freak if I can

 

Heres the part number:

 

EPM7064STC44-10N

 

 

I am looking for at least 20 pieces.

 

THanks

Jim

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Atmel claim they have compatible supersets of the epm7000 series. You just need to massage the file with their free utility. Look up their ATF series of cplds.

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Yes, I used many Atmel CPLDs in a prior life.  Loved WINCUPL.

 

The issue is finding a programmer for the ATF1504AS-10AU44.  I used to use a little dongle that plugged into a parallel port. >>Remember those?<<  I have a USB programmer for the ALTERA device already, and the code is already established so to me, for a one last time, I'd rather just pay the piper on the parts and move on with life.

 

I am waiting for a quote from a company here in the USA that I found on Octopart.  As I wrote in teh OP if a freak has some I'd rather pay a freak for the parts

 

Cheers

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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jgmdesign wrote:
The issue is finding a programmer for the ATF1504AS-10AU44. 

 

I think any FT2232 or FT2232H can work as an Atmel jtag programmer ?   I have a lattice CPLD board here somewhere with a 10 pin header wired to the FT2232H that worked to pgm ATF16xx

 

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Who-me wrote:
 I have a lattice CPLD

Ahhh LAttice!  The CPLD that I first started with!

 

The Lattice Rep gave me something we called "The Jungle Kit" as the outside of the box had a safari like theme to it.  Inside were databooks, samples of the parts, and programming cables.....that connected to the parallel port of a PC.

 

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.smiley

 

I am not interested in Making programmers, massaging code, etc....I am not making any money worth doing any of that.  I just want to buy silicon...old silicon.

 

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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Hmm.  i seem to have a relatively substantial quantity of EPM7064LC44-7

Will they work?

they appear to be programmed, but they're eraseable, aren't they?

 

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jgmdesign wrote:

I am not interested in Making programmers, massaging code, etc....I am not making any money worth doing any of that.  I just want to buy silicon...old silicon.

Sure, but if that's impossible, or far too costly, you will of course have some plan B, right ?  :)

 

How many do you need ?

I see verical list EPM7064STC44-10N MOQ 160 for 160+ $25.0300   $4,004.80

So I could do 160 x ATF1504AS-10AU44, or ATF1504ASV-15AU44, for under that price :)  if the JED transfers ok...

 

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 22, 2019 - 12:28 AM
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westfw wrote:

Hmm.  i seem to have a relatively substantial quantity of EPM7064LC44-7

Will they work?

they appear to be programmed, but they're eraseable, aren't they?

Yes, erasable. - but those are plcc44 ? and OP is after TQFP44 I think.

 

However, you could be sitting on a goldmine there  :) 

    Intel  EPM7064LC44-7    CPLD MAX® 7000 Family 1.25K Gates 64 Macro Cells 125MHz 5V 44-Pin PLCC Tube
Arrow Electronics    EPM7064LC44-7    1,271        1        USD    110.72    110.72    62.75    55.36    55.36    
 

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Ah, yeah.  Mine are PLCC.  No TQFPs (I think I have some EPM7128 in 100pin TQFPs.)

 

 

However, you could be sitting on a goldmine there  :) 

At this stage of my life, I'd rather find someone that can use them than reap any financial reward. (not to mention personal ethics about not re-selling things that I found dumpster-diving.)
Heh.  Let me tell you about the $1000+ 1152pin Xilinx FPGAs that I pulled off the trash pile.  (I asked.  "no, we can't use them.  They're already obsolete from a development point of view, and even if they're used in a current product, there's no way to put "found chips" like that into the production chain.")

I never expected "glue logic" to go obsolete so quickly; I mean, I've got 8051-class micros, GALs, and 74xx logic from even earlier times that are much more usable. Vaguely, anyway.

 

(Various EPM7064 chips (PLCC and LQFP) seem to sell on eBay in the $2-$5 price range.)

 

 

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 22, 2019 - 02:11 AM
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Who-me wrote:
Sure, but if that's impossible, or far too costly, you will of course have some plan B, right ?  :)

 

YEs, tell them to use my new version that uses an AVR to replace the CPLD(not joking).

 

Who-me wrote:
I see verical list EPM7064STC44-10N MOQ 160 for 160+ $25.0300   $4,004.80

 

I don't need 160 I only need 20.  I will be getting quotes coming in tomorrow morning and I will see what happens.

 

Who-me wrote:
So I could do 160 x ATF1504AS-10AU44, or ATF1504ASV-15AU44, for under that price :)  if the JED transfers ok...

I'll keep that in mind......you may see a PM from me smiley

 

Who-me wrote:
if the JED transfers ok...

Ahh Yes....I F......

 

Thats why the customer/myself would prefer to pay a little ransom for the original part.  If any rework is needed, the cost of paying me to tweak the code/test/etc, we can have the right parts on the boards and programmed.  I also do not want the work as I have a bigger project that I need to focus on as it offers a bigger financial reward that a legacy product that sales was told NOT TO SELL, but did it anyway... WTFE.

 

Thats all I have.  IF anyone has the parts I would be grateful to hear from ya!!

 

JIm

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

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jgmdesign wrote:

Who-me wrote:

I see verical list EPM7064STC44-10N MOQ 160 for 160+ $25.0300   $4,004.80

 

 

I don't need 160 I only need 20.  I will be getting quotes coming in tomorrow morning and I will see what happens.

 

Hmmm, let's see. $4004.80/20 = $200.24  each...   yeah that sounds about right. crying

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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friend, we have EPM7064STC44-10N, it's an EOL source indeed,  yes, we are independent distributor of NET component, pls contact our email:   jackdoit@msn.com.  we cam share with you 

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also, we can let you know the price  EPM7064STC44-10N    20PCS  @ 6.0USD for each one,  hope can help you 

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Jack chan wrote:

also, we can let you know the price  EPM7064STC44-10N    20PCS  @ 6.0USD for each one,  hope can help you 

Your a day late to the party!

I purchased 25 last night for 10 bucks a piece plus shipping. If i need more i will certainly contact you.

Thanks!
Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"Step N is required before you can do step N+1!" - ka7ehk

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

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cool, that's ok, tks your reply, other MCU or others   TI  AD  ALTERA XILINX NXP, we can share good price with you, all source from agent, pls contact me