Is AVR Studio going to be phased out in favor of MPLAB?

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I've just noticed that MPLAB supports AVRs (in beta). What's the next move? Killing Studio or running both IDEs in parallel.

IMHO Studio is superior.

 

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slow_rider wrote:

IMHO Studio is superior.

 

But only runs on Windows.

#1 This forum helps those that help themselves

#2 All grounds are not created equal

#3 How have you proved that your chip is running at xxMHz?

#4 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand." - Heater's ex-boss

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Microsoft has 75% share in laptop / desktop OS.

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slow_rider wrote:

Microsoft has 75% share in laptop / desktop OS.

 

Across all uses, yes. But what about in embedded development? And that 25% is still a huge potential market.

 

And then there are those developers who are processor agnostic and who would prefer to use just one IDE.

#1 This forum helps those that help themselves

#2 All grounds are not created equal

#3 How have you proved that your chip is running at xxMHz?

#4 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand." - Heater's ex-boss

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So I'm taking it back to the original question... does anyone knows for fact this is going to happen?

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It would seem to be an excellent strategy.  i.e. Use one IDE for all Microchip devices especially if it is Platform independent.

 

Yes,   I agree that register displays are a bit clunky at the moment.     I guess that Microchip are working hard to improve this.

 

It always surprised me that Atmel or Microchip did not simply pay a licence to Rowley.     They would have had a platform-agnostic clunk-free IDE ten years ago.

 

If I was a Silicon Manufacturer,   I would look at all the Software Houses and make a business agreement with the most competent company.

 

Of course everything has a price.    The strategy seems to be either attempt "in-house" or buy up the most "mediocre software house"  e.g. NXP policy.

And I suspect that a respected Software House would not be willing to fall under the grip (and restrictions) of a Manufacturer.

 

David.

Last Edited: Fri. Jan 4, 2019 - 12:05 PM
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@ david.prentice

I understand that a cross-platform IDE would be beneficial but MPLAB is not a good piece of software. I'm sorry but it is not. Everything feels odd and half-baked. I'm not the only one who thinks that and at my previous work place we had lots of Microchip development going on and basically everyone who was not coding is assembly had complaints about the IDE. 

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I've always been surprised that Atmel didn't do a deal with IAR since they consulted them heavily over the design of the AVR core and how to make it 'C' friendly.

#1 This forum helps those that help themselves

#2 All grounds are not created equal

#3 How have you proved that your chip is running at xxMHz?

#4 "If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand." - Heater's ex-boss

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It seemed fairly obvious that AS7 would be phased out but apparently Microchip have made an announcement to the contrary, that it will continue to be maintained but i wonder for how long. I'm guessing that once the mist serious bugs are ironed out of MPLABX it will become the sole platform. For AS7 it took about 3 yeats to get from the bug ridden AS5 to the stable AS7 so maybe expect another 2..3 years of Studio before it is phased out.

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its pretty much obvious that after a while MPLABX will be the ONLY development platform, but will takes years for sure

IMHO no more version than STUDIO7 will be developed, but for sure studio7 will support new hardware for a significant period

 

ATMEL used to have 1 platform for sam/avr , now microchip will have one for ALL,
pure logic

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On this subject,  if i'm coming from AVRStudio4, and wanting to move to a modern IDE, should i swap to Studio7 or MPLab ??  Any recommendations?

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A low price alternative to Atmel Studio 7 is VisualGDB though for AVR it's going via AVaRICE so a reduced set of AVR compared to Atmel Studio 7.

Might consder your preferred editor then operate an IDE for its debugger.

 

Debugging Arduino AVR boards with Visual Studio – VisualGDB Tutorials

BSPTools/DebugPackages at master · sysprogs/BSPTools · GitHub (ARM via OpenOCD, others are at that URL)

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GitHub - xoriath/vscode-atmel-debug: Debug adapter for Visual Studio code for the Atmel debug backend (via AVR GDB; would need AVR community effort to add EDBG)

 

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 15, 2019 - 11:31 PM
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The Question was: Will AVR Studio be phased out?

 

The answer is: Nobody here knows with the possible exception of the few Microchip folks who occasionally appear. There can be all sorts of "educated guesses" but that is all they are: guesses. And, even if Microchip has a plan, Microchip would be foolish to say so at this point. 

 

So, don't expect an answer that you can act on. 

 

Jim

Jim Wagner Oregon Research Electronics, Consulting Div. Tangent, OR, USA http://www.orelectronics.net