New PIC32CX and PIC32CZ?

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Rumor on the street is that Microchip have some new Cortex chips up their sleeve, a Cortex M4 series named PIC32CX and Cortex M7 series named PIC32CZ. Presumably they derive from Atmel SAM products. Anyone got any more info?

 

@gchapman I expect you to be all over this :)

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Last Edited: Sun. Aug 13, 2017 - 08:04 PM
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I'll pass :-) though am dazzled by the PIC32MZ DA.

These new MCU (program and data space, functions, multiple computer languages) will emphasize the need for teams.

 

http://www.microchip.com/design-centers/32-bit/architecture/pic32mz-da-family

 

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This is still a site dedicated to Atmel AVR.

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jgmdesign wrote:
This is still a site dedicated to Atmel AVR.

 

We seem to tolerate posts about SAMD21 and Micro-bit... should I complain about those?

Bob.

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donotdespisethesnake wrote:

Rumor on the street is that Microchip have some new Cortex chips up their sleeve, a Cortex M4 series named PIC32CX and Cortex M7 series named PIC32CZ. Presumably they derive from Atmel SAM products. Anyone got any more info?

Rebranding ?

Given PIC32 has always label MIPS cores, that's going to cause some confusion in the market place, but maybe that is the intention ?

Microchip has always tried to elevate 'PIC' above the core, and it seems here you run all the way along the string PIC32, to find the next letter is a M for MIPS and C for Cortex ?

Code is not going to be nearly as portable as the brand name 'suggests', but caveat emptor always applies I guess.

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donotdespisethesnake wrote:

jgmdesign wrote:
This is still a site dedicated to Atmel AVR.

 

We seem to tolerate posts about SAMD21 and Micro-bit... should I complain about those?


Sure. And those threads will be moved to the SAM forums as they have been in the past unless it's ASF related as there is no forum in the SAM community for that

Jim

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Who-me wrote:
Rebranding ?
Don't put your eggs in one basket?

BBC

Imagination Technologies put up for sale amid Apple dispute

22 June 2017

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40364662

Licensing fees may change wherever MIPS lands.

 


https://www.imgtec.com/ (Imagination Technologies)

 

Edit : URL

 

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Last Edited: Mon. Jul 24, 2017 - 02:21 AM
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jgmdesign wrote:
This is still a site dedicated to Atmel AVR Microchip PIC19

 

There, fixed that for ya. Latest rumors have Microchip renaming the 8-bit AVRs to PIC19.

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There, fixed that for ya. Latest rumors have Microchip renaming the 8-bit AVRs to PIC19.

Those rumours have completely eluded Google.  Which is highly unlikely.  Feels like the rumour started in #8.

 

Care to post a link?

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A PIC32MZ DA board is on sale :

Microchip Technology Inc

Microchip

DM320010 - PIC32MZ Embedded Graphics with Stacked DRAM (DA) Starter Kit

http://www.microchip.com/Developmenttools/ProductDetails.aspx?PartNO=DM320010

$50 Off - Use Coupon Code :TP1720       Expires : 31-Aug-2017

 

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donotdespisethesnake wrote:
Anyone got any more info?
ARM Cortex-M4F but with AT (Atmel) for a part number and on the SAM line card :

Microchip Technology Inc

Microchip

Press Release

Microchip Launches Two New SAM Microcontroller Families with Extensive Connectivity Interface Options

Chandler, Arizona

Aug. 1, 2017

https://www.microchip.com/en/pressreleasepage/microchip-launches-sam-d5x-e5x-microcontroller-families

SAM D5x and E5x MCUs Provide Powerful Performance and Enhanced Security Features

 

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joeymorin wrote:

There, fixed that for ya. Latest rumors have Microchip renaming the 8-bit AVRs to PIC19.

Those rumours have completely eluded Google.  Which is highly unlikely.  Feels like the rumour started in #8.

 

Care to post a link?

I looked as well and found nothing.

 

Whatever Joey, IT's only a matter of time.....

 

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maybe PIC32 will move to "AVR32" or whatever but for sure PIC32 will move to ARM core, if they have not moved already..

here is what MPLAbX 4.0 says

 

ARM® GNU Toolchain and MPLAB X IDE
The ARM® GNU toolchain may be used with MPLAB X IDE to provide GUI development of application code for the PIC32C MCU families of devices.

 

Last Edited: Sun. Aug 13, 2017 - 12:55 PM
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plouf wrote:

... but for sure PIC32 will move to ARM core, if they have not moved already..

 

 

Not quite, there is PIC32M and PIC32C and both exist independently.  That extra letter is important.

PIC32M is not 'moving to' PIC32C.

 

 

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Damn...

"I don't need any more than an 8bit AVR.  I don't need ARM, I don't need 32bits, I don't need 120MHz, I don't need floating point, and I don't even need all those fancy peripherals!  I'll be fine with my ATmega2560!"

"The 100pin ATSAMD51N19A is less than half of the price of the ATmega2560..."

"Say what?!"

 

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westfw wrote:

Damn...

"I don't need any more than an 8bit AVR.  I don't need ARM, I don't need 32bits, I don't need 120MHz, I don't need floating point, and I don't even need all those fancy peripherals!  I'll be fine with my ATmega2560!"

"The 100pin ATSAMD51N19A is less than half of the price of the ATmega2560..."

"Say what?!"

 

 

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Electronic Design

China-Backed Fund Canyon Bridge to Buy Imagination

James Morra 1

Sep 26, 2017

http://www.electronicdesign.com/embedded-revolution/china-backed-fund-canyon-bridge-buy-imagination

...

Imagination is selling its MIPS business unit as a condition for the deal with Canyon Bridge, ...

MIPS processors are mostly used in embedded computing.

Imagination said on Friday that the American investment firm Tallwood Venture Capital would pay $65 million for the MIPS business, which is based in the United States. The MIPS architecture is used, for example, in Mediatek’s smartphone modems and Mobileye’s image processors for semi-autonomous cars.

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In May, the company said that it would stay afloat by selling its Ensigma and MIPS units. In June – after its stock price had plunged – Imagination said that everything had to go.

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“We are investing in U.K. talent and expertise in order to accelerate the expansion of Imagination, particularly into Asia.” - Ray Bingham, Canyon Bridge co-founder

 

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    Will this have any negative impact on PIC32 existence / development ?

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No (a guess) though ones at Microchip are likely mulling this.

New Microchip MIPS MCU are extremely recent.

MIPS will continue as MediaTek is a huge customer.

 

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New Microchip MIPS MCU are extremely recent.

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Microchip

Press Release

Microchip Expands Computing Capabilities with Two Embedded Controller Families that Support eSPI Bus Technology

The MEC17XX and MEC14XX Families Allow for Increased Functionality and Flexibility in Computing Designs

Chandler, Arizona

Sept. 27, 2017

https://www.microchip.com/en/pressreleasepage/two-embedded-controller-families-that-support-espi-bus-technology

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The MEC17XX family is based on an ARM® Cortex®-M4F core and has advanced hardware-accelerated cryptography algorithms to efficiently support the secure boot of a computer [PC].

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In addition, Microchip’s popular MIPS-based MEC14XX family has been expanded to include functionality for supporting the new eSPI Slave Attached Flash (SAF) feature, which allows the Microchip embedded controller to be directly connected to an SPI Flash memory using an on-board master controller.

...

For more information about the MEC17XX and MEC142XX, visit: www.microchip.com/MEC1701
...

http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/mec1428

 

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Imagination said on Friday that the American investment firm Tallwood Venture Capital would pay $65 million for the MIPS business, which is based in the United States.

What Opening the MIPS Architecture Could Mean

by James Morra

Jan 03, 2019

[MIPS Open by Wave Computing, zero fee or zero royalty, by the end of Q1'19]

(end of 4th paragraph)

The MIPS architecture plays a major role in the embedded processor market and hundreds of customers continue to use it commercially, including Microchip Technology, Mobileye and MediaTek. Common applications are set-top boxes, residential gateways and routers.

(mid-page)

Last year, after Imagination announced that it was losing its largest graphics customer by revenue, the company starting shopping the MIPS architecture. It was offloaded to Tallwood Venture Capital, an investment firm founded by Data Banatao. MIPS Technologies briefly returned to Silicon Valley before it was sold to Wave, which is also building custom chips for training artificial intelligence in data centers and edge servers.

Wave is headed by many former executives from the first incarnation of MIPS Technologies. ...

...

Last year, it [arm] moved to end licensing fees for lower-end Cortex-M0 and Cortex-M1 microcontrollers. Companies only have to pay royalties if the product is successful. The company also lowered the cost of its Cortex-A5 core.

...

MIPS Open — Wave Computing

 

edit: Microchip nee Microsemi is a member of the prpl Foundation.

Wave Computing® Creates MIPS Open™ Advisory Board - WAVE Computing

Current members - prpl Foundation, Open Source - IoT, Security and OpenWrt

 

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Can MIPS Leapfrog RISC-V? | EE Times

by Junko Yoshida

02.14.19

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[Art] Swift [Wave Computing, MIPS licensing president] noted that MIPS plans to soon announce details on cores to be provided to the open source community.

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Meanwhile, Swift said MIPS is committed to increasing its number of customers by lowering barriers to entry. For example, MIPS will revive and promote what is known as MIPSfpga program. The academic-focused program was originally developed to be taught in classes, with a comprehensive set of materials for a MIPS CPU that presents to students the actual RTL code and inner workings of the processor.

...

 

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MIPS R6 Architecture Now Available for Open Use | EE Times

by Junko Yoshida

03.28.19

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Under the MIPS Open program, participants have full access to the MIPS R6 architecture free of charge – with no licensing or royalty fees. 

...

 

Downloadable

[ISA, RTL, toolchain, MIPSfpga]

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The actual release of microAptive core, however, is several weeks away, according to [Art] Swift [Wave Computing, MIPS Licensing president].

 

Is MIPS relevant?
[Yes due to open RTL; RISC-V is open RTL]

...

 

MIPS Open Advisory Board
[MIPS Open licensing conditions : 1. MIPS ISA can only be extended, 2. certification]

...

 

Potential users of MIPS Open
[MIPS Open ISA is extendable, MIPS Open RTL reduces risk]

...

 

AI + MIPS strategy

[edge computing]

...

microAptiveTM core is in PIC32MM, PIC32MK, and PIC32MZ DA.

32-bit PIC® and SAM Microcontrollers Peripheral Integration

 

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Wave Computing Releases First MIPS Open Program Components to Accelerate Innovation for Next-Generation System on Chip Designs - WAVE Computing

First Release Provides Immediate Access to the Proven, Industry-Standard and Patent-Protected MIPS RISC Architecture without License Fees or Royalties

Campbell, California

March 28, 2019

...

The new MIPS Open online environment is live and immediately accessible at www.mipsopen.com.

...

Specific components of the first MIPS Open program release include: [ISA, toolchain, openFPGA includes non-commercial RTL for the microAptiv core]

Additional enhancements and capabilities for the MIPS Open components are planned, including the release of the commercial RTL code for the MIPS microAptiv cores and new features for the development environment. 

...

 

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... including the release of the commercial RTL code for the MIPS microAptiv cores ...

Wave Computing Adds MIPS32 microAptiv Cores to MIPS Open Program – MIPS Open

New Release of MIPS Open™ Components Includes Verilog RTL Code for MIPS32 microAptiv Cores Helping Developers Save Months-to-Years of Time

Campbell, California

May 13, 2019

...

The new set of MIPS Open program components will include two different versions of the microAptiv Verilog RTL code:

[1. MCU, 2. MPU adds cache and MMU]

In addition to the Verilog RTL code, the package also includes documentation, configuration tools and a verification suite.

...

 

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Wave Computing and Imperas Introduce New MIPS Open Simulator— MIPSOpenOVPsim   – MIPS Open

New MIPS Open Partner Offering Helps System-on-Chip (SoC) Developers Run Design Verification in Record Time Using MIPSOpenOVPsim

Campbell, California and Oxford, England

May 30, 2019

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MIPSOpenOVPsim is a MIPS system architecture simulator, available at no cost, which implements a complete single-core CPU.

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For developers of more advanced designs who need multi-core support and advanced debug tools, Imperas also offers full-capability virtual platforms. MIPSOpenOVPsim includes a freedom to use license model from Imperas, which supports commercial as well as academic use. 

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Highlights of MIPSOpenOVPsim include:

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It is also suitable as a platform target to develop bare metal applications and also models the MIPS32 microAptiv cores recently made available within the MIPS Open Program.

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MIPSOpenOVPsim delivers exceptionally fast, high-performance simulations, running over 500 million instructions per second on a standard host PC (Windows or Linux).

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  • Free and easy to adopt: MIPSOpenOVPsim will be released on June 3, 2019 via the Wave Computing MIPS Open program at https://www.mipsopen.com.

...

 

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