Posted by GermanFranz: Mon. Mar 25, 2019 - 05:01 PM
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gchapman wrote:
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Interesting alternative.
Realistically, a hobbyist will use a second and third AVR here rather. A controller that you can already program (and solder!). A universal usable Tiny1614 does not need much place :)
Interesting alternative. Realistically, a hobbyist will use a second and third AVR here rather. A controller that you can already program (and solder!). A Tiny1614 does not need much place...
I really cannot follow your points and what you would like to prove. does this imply that some microcontrollers from MC /Atmel..or whatever cannot be soldered or programmed. How did you came to this conclusion ?? can you state some microcontrollers that is impossible to program ? or to solder..i am really interested to know?
EDIT: the quote was before GermanFranz edited his points 3 times.
Posted by GermanFranz: Mon. Mar 25, 2019 - 05:43 PM
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Hi Moe123, have look first the GreenPak features.
Then you can answer question why AVR hobbyist should invest time and money in this other technology if you can use a modern universal AVR instead- a technology that is already known and in use (and easily solderable compared to GreenPak!)
A hobbyist would use a dev kit and not a single uC. if you are already designing your owb PCB then you are a little bit step ahead from being a hobbyist.
Posted by GermanFranz: Wed. Mar 27, 2019 - 03:49 PM
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Well, related to modern AVR controllers there is no big difference between devkit and single chip. A Tiny1614 normally only need power and a 3 Pin UPDI Connector... Any hobbyist can do that easily if he can solder.
Well, related to modern AVR controllers there is no big difference between devkit and single chip. A Tiny1614 normally only need power and a 3 Pin UPDI Connector... Any hobbyist can do that easily if he can solder.
If you did that I bet if the chip going to work, decoupling capacitor...LDO(if needed), and more other stuff, here is a start:
and a lot more consideration. not to mention that noise will make the chip almost not functioning. so as I said before, if you are already designing your HW and get it to work then this is something else..
Posted by GermanFranz: Wed. Mar 27, 2019 - 04:19 PM
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Moe123 wrote:
If you did that I bet if the chip going to work, decoupling capacitor
Don't worry Moe123. There is no need to bet because it works. Ok, a capacitor does not hurt. But that's just as much easy to the hobbyist as choosing the right operating voltage 👍
If you did that I bet if the chip going to work, decoupling capacitor
Don't worry Moe123. There is no need to bet because it works. Ok, a capacitor does not hurt. But that's just as much easy to the hobbyist as choosing the right operating voltage 👍
well, if it works for you like this: single mcu, connect updi pin GND and right operating voltage then you should open a company immediately and start making some money.
Interesting alternative.
Realistically, a hobbyist will use a second and third AVR here rather. A controller that you can already program (and solder!). A universal usable Tiny1614 does not need much place :)
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TopI really cannot follow your points and what you would like to prove. does this imply that some microcontrollers from MC /Atmel..or whatever cannot be soldered or programmed. How did you came to this conclusion ?? can you state some microcontrollers that is impossible to program ? or to solder..i am really interested to know?
EDIT: the quote was before GermanFranz edited his points 3 times.
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TopHi Moe123, have look first the GreenPak features.
Then you can answer question why AVR hobbyist should invest time and money in this other technology if you can use a modern universal AVR instead- a technology that is already known and in use (and easily solderable compared to GreenPak!)
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TopA hobbyist would use a dev kit and not a single uC. if you are already designing your owb PCB then you are a little bit step ahead from being a hobbyist.
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TopWell, related to modern AVR controllers there is no big difference between devkit and single chip. A Tiny1614 normally only need power and a 3 Pin UPDI Connector... Any hobbyist can do that easily if he can solder.
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TopIf you did that I bet if the chip going to work, decoupling capacitor...LDO(if needed), and more other stuff, here is a start:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloa...
and a lot more consideration. not to mention that noise will make the chip almost not functioning. so as I said before, if you are already designing your HW and get it to work then this is something else..
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TopDon't worry Moe123. There is no need to bet because it works. Ok, a capacitor does not hurt. But that's just as much easy to the hobbyist as choosing the right operating voltage 👍
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Topwell, if it works for you like this: single mcu, connect updi pin GND and right operating voltage then you should open a company immediately and start making some money.
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TopIt's not worth it. Too many can do that 😀
The hardware is simple. Programming is the bigger challenge.
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TopHerr Franz!! you nailed it! perfect!!
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