In search of Stainless Enclosure vendor asstance

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Hey Freaky people.....

 

I have for years been using these enclosures for a control system I designed and build:

 

https://www.saginawcontrol.com/p...

 

They are really nice enclosures, but the problem is that the vendor NEVER can deliver on time.  No matter what distributor I order from, there is always an issue and the shipment is up to a month late, with the excuse being that the problem is the manufacturer.  I am not permitted to hold stock on these units due to cost, so hence I do understand that if you order for JIT, you may be SOL, but not being able to get a delivery on time ever, no matter who I order through is not cutting it anymore.

 

I was wondering if anyone here could recommend a manufacturer I could interview as a supplier of such a cabinet while I do some inter-webbing as well.

 

Thanks all.

 

JIm

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Jim I feel your pain, the little guy gets no respect!  The manufacturers are busy filling orders by the 1000's for the big guys and they cost to much to inventory at suppliers, so all you can do is keep one in stock for that rush job the customer is willing to pay you for.  Besides, its not like the bank is paying you for your savings anyway, you just as well "invest" in a little inventory!

 

Jim

 

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I have used the Hammond Eclipse series and have not had (much) difficulty with delivery.

It does not appear they have the same size, but you may want to check them out...

https://www.hammfg.com/files/downloads/catalog/epg/02-EPG-Corrosion_Resistant.pdf

(the types I have used are shown on page 77)

 

 

David (aka frog_jr)

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Hoffman?

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On the site you pointed to I saw:

List Price: $533.84

 

With this link I see very similar looking boxes for around EUR35 ( < USD 50)

https://www.aliexpress.com/whole...

 

Shipping of such big / heavy stuff from China is relatively expensive.

Shipped (single quantities) I see prices of around USD 120.

Shipping is slow, but you may be able to convince your boss to have a few on stock for 1/4 of your regular price.

 

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ki0bk wrote:
Besides, its not like the bank is paying you for your savings anyway, you just as well "invest" in a little inventory!

I do not have the $$ to keep inventory on hand for something that does not come in sometimes for months.  These units are for a specific customer and on a good year I may make 15 of them.  On a bad year I make three.

 

@Frog,

I will look at them this afternoon for pricing - Thanks!

 

@Kartman,

One of the Manufacturers I thought of after I posted...Great minds think alike...at least your great mind and my cheap alternative cheeky

 

@Paulvdh

Those are some nice prices, but not worth the shipping expense or the shipping timetable.  The MSRP is $533, but I can get them from the distributors - sometimes - for 40% less with free shipping.  Those are nice prices though and if the shipping was free I would consider it for other projects but not this one due to other factors.  I might order one anyway just to evaluate. - Thanks!

 

Jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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The Chinese stuff does sound way too cheap. I dare say you get what you pay for. Over here there’s two main choices for the grade of stainless steel -304 and 316. 304 is cheaper and is normally used for indoor and washdown applications. 316 is more expensive and is used for outdoor, especially in coastal regions.
Both are a pig to work with - drilling holes requires skill, patience and cobalt drills. It’s worth the money to pay to get them laser cut if you have a number of holes to drill.

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Kartman wrote:
Both are a pig to work with - drilling holes requires skill, patience and cobalt drills.

I use cobalt for the pilot holes and I have a diamond carbide hole saw for the 22mm holes I have to drill into them.  I now have a punch for doing this which makes for a cleaner hole, but its noisy to use as I connect it to my impact wrench to operate teh punch.

 

Kartman wrote:
It’s worth the money to pay to get them laser cut if you have a number of holes to drill.

It's actually rather expensive to have done unless its a large volume around here.

 

jim

I would rather attempt something great and fail, than attempt nothing and succeed - Fortune Cookie

 

"The critical shortage here is not stuff, but time." - Johan Ekdahl

 

"If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue!" - Kartman

"Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?"  - Lee "theusch"

 

Speak sweetly. It makes your words easier to digest when at a later date you have to eat them ;-)  - Source Unknown

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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Jim, you can get Chinese hydraulic punches fairly cheap these days. The punches themselves are usually crap, so use good quality three teeth ones (greenlee?). Much quieter than using a rattle gun and probably faster.

 

Dirt cheap - https://www.ebay.com.au/p/Qualit...

 

As you've probably gathered, I've done this before.........

 

 

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It is a loooong time since I used them but I was happy with Rittal products.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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I used to use a lot of Rittal 19" rack stuff - never had a cause for complaint. Their s/s boxes were a bit uncompetitive price wise with the locally built product. As well, we were able to get the local guys to punch our holes but they didn't always end up where we wanted them.

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Jim,

 

stupid question perhaps...

but have you ever contacted the manufacturer and asked them why they never are able to deliver on time?

It might be that of this particular product then just simply don't sell enough to have them in stock and thus it might be that they have an alternative housing that they do keep stock of as that is running in higher quantities.

We had that with a couple of components in the past. We selected and qualified them, used them and after a while orders got delayed and delayed. So we got the sales representative over to complain and he explained that during our initial buys they had either stock or we accidentally ordered together with a couple of other manufacturers so they could deliver in time. After a while we got out of sink and a couple of other buyers stopped buying so now they had to make the part almost specially for us. So that caused the delays. He also gave us some alternative parts (that also were cost wise more interesting) that were drop in replacements and that they held stock of and thus could deliver faster.

 

also I have done a quick google search on "wall mount enclosures" a lot of links on the first page seemed to have given different vendors (some of the URLs matched the names mentioned here already), so you might have a look at that.