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scottm

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Posted by scottm: Sun. Nov 29, 2015 - 03:07 PM

I like Studio 4, sorry. It has support for devices I still have 1000's of, which have disappeared from the devices support of newer versions of studio. I have a STK500 and I just want to burn AVR 8 bit chips. Forced to get a new laptop lately and they all come with Windows 10.

Found it is possible to get Studio 4.19 build 730 running on Windows 10, but it's a bit tricky to get installed. I have the studio setupexe stashed away forever on my own backups so I don't even have to waste time going to the internet to find it.

Here's how I did it:

studio 4 on windows 10 has tricks to install
- turn off UAC
Control Panel\User Accounts\User Accounts
"change user account control settings" to "never"
- and a reboot to take effect
-turn off wifi/network (no access)
-to run the avrsetup "run as administrator" by right click on it to start

getting the stk500 to work with usb-to-serial adapter (prolific chipset)
- must install the 'downlevel' 3.2.0.0 driver for the adapter
newer drivers will cause a boken yellow ! device on the COM port
there's a web page that walked through it
http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Dri...
-downloaded the 3.2 driver from the link provided on that site

I still don't know what the requirement of having the avrsetup install a "Junga" usb device driver, but do it anyway as part of the Wizard.

Look in your Windows 10 device manager to spot the COM port number assigned when you plug in the usb-to-serial adapter.

Here's a shortcut to getting to device manager in Win10: press and hold the Windows control button on the keyboard and press "x" character, brings up a popup menu, pick 'device manager' off it.

Launch Studio, Tools ... program connect... pick STK500 and the COM port you observed, or let it autoconnect to find it... not finding it, like mine didn't at first?? Power up the STK500, then try the autoconnect again.. Doh!

So, here's what I have to say to Atmel: Studio-4-ever!!! Lives on ONE MORE GENERATION of Windows and life is still good, probably 'til I die now I can program what I need to.

Regards,
Scott

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Posted by AAArroyo: Sun. Nov 29, 2015 - 08:06 PM

I followed your instructions to install AVR Studio 4.19 Build 730 but when I try recompiling a project that I used in my class, I get

"rm.exe - Application Error

X The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142). Click OK to close the application"

I did click OK and what happens is that the .hex file is NOT generated.

I also tried an assembler project and it "Build" correctly.

I have an older ATMega128 board on some robots and MUST use AVR Studio 4 because of the JTAG interface. These projects are classroom related projects so I can demo the robot in class. They have been around for 6-8 years and I use them unchanged every semester. Everything works correctly in Windows 7 (x32) but I wanted to try out Windows 10 (x32). The world does not end if I can't use Windows 10 but it would be nice. Any ideas?

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Posted by scottm: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 04:45 AM (Reply to #2)

I only do assembler, tried a build and it worked fine.

And I just burned three dozen chips, using STK500 on a usb-to-serial adapter, and it worked.

Sorry, that's all I use Studio 4 for.

Regards,
Scott

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Posted by clawson: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 10:00 AM

"rm.exe - Application Error

X The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142). Click OK to close the application"

"rm" is the Linux equivalent of "DEL" in MS-DOS. When make runs to execute a Makefile it can invoke one of two "shells". One might be a Linux "bash-like" shell and it will understand commands like "rm", "cat" and the other Linux shell commands. One would be the Windows CMD.EXE and it just understands the MS-DOS commands like "del", "type" and so on. If make runs with CMD.EXE as the sell but is then asked to invoke a Linux command like "rm" it will simply say "I don't know any command called 'rm' he must mean he wants me to run RM.EXE".

The error you are getting suggests this is exactly what is happening here. it could be that the wrong make.exe is found first in the PATH on your machine.

While it's not a great solution (in my opinion) if you install Cygwin on your machine and let it add to your PATH it will add commands such as "rm.exe" so the invocation would work.

The reason assembler projects work is that is all "Atmel only". All they do is invoke avrasm2.exe directly. They aren't trying to build and execute a Makefile using make.exe in that case.

BTW "rm" is only invoked for a "clean" not a "build". However if you are attempting to use "build all" then this is a "clean" and then a "build". Try using just "build" and do any "cleaning" manually. But this just prevents it trying to invoke rm.exe - there may be other rules in the AS4 generated Makefile that try to use other Linux commands and they'll hit the same problem.

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Posted by AAArroyo: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 03:46 PM (Reply to #4)

Hi: Thank you for your response above.

"it could be that the wrong make.exe is found first in the PATH on your machine."

I looked at the path on the Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and they look reasonable.

Windows 7: C:\Users\Amauri>path
PATH=C:\Program Files\Parallels\Parallels Tools\Applications;C:\ProgramData\Orac
le\Java\javapath;C:\WinAVR-20100110\bin;C:\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin;C:\Windows\
system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShe
ll\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin

Windows 10

C:\Users\Arroyo>path
PATH=C:\WinAVR-20100110\bin;C:\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin;C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\Parallels\Parallels Tools\Applications;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\

They both point to WinAVR to do the compelling & Make

I also uninstalled Atmel Studio 7 from Windows 10 just in case there was a conflict (but I have Studio 4.19 and 7 in Windows 7 and they both work), but that did not solve the problem. I also uninstalled them both and reinstalled Studio 4.19 but no go.

BTW, rm works on both Windows 7 and Windows 10. Try "rm --help" and they respond correctly...

I tried your suggestion in using BUILD and not BUILD ALL but it also fails but with a different message, and this may truly be the culprit. Here is the error window I got in using Compile (to see if the compiler was being called correctly):

I get the same error when using Build: "sync_with_child" died...

The command "sh --help" produce the same identical output on both machines. Could WinAVR be the culprit since the Assembler part works suggesting that the problem is in the C invocation?

Thank you again! As a professor I like to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it...

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Posted by AAArroyo: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 03:57 PM (Reply to #5)

The windows content did not render in my previous post, so here is a text version:

for compile:

0 [main] sh 9592 sync_with_child: child 1456 (0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xc0000142

75171 [main] sh 9592 sync_with child: *** child state waiting for longjmp

/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

for build:

same error but the 9592 became 3532 (all else the same)

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Posted by clawson: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 06:07 PM

Oh that's just the old 4.19 problem. See my Sticky about that at the top of the Studio forum. Atmel deliberately knobbled 4.19 so (unlike 4.18 SP3) it would not "see" WinAVR any more.

To be honest, in this day and age you don't actually want to be using WinAVR (4.3.3) anyway when you can get an avr-gcc 4.9.2 "Atml Toolchain" from Atmel that is 6 years more advanced.

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Posted by AAArroyo: Mon. Nov 30, 2015 - 08:35 PM (Reply to #7)

Thank you Mr Clawson. I am not sure I found your sticky note. I am OK using the AVR Toolchain but am not familiar with installing it or letting AVR Studio know that it is installed. The documentation has not helped. I did find your instructions on making WinAVR work but you convinced me to use the AVR Toolchain. How do I do it?

I reinstalled Studio 4.19 and just need to know how to get AVR Toolchain installed correctly (the install file is a zip file, but where does it go?) and how do I let AVR Studio know where it is ... Sorry for the lack of knowledge here...

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Posted by AAArroyo: Tue. Dec 1, 2015 - 03:23 AM (Reply to #7)

Hi:

I installed WinAVR and AVR Studio 4.19 (Build 730) on Windows 10 (x32) and added the information from your sticky note:

In the External Tools box untick (if ticked) the "Use AVr Toolchain" box.

In the avr-gcc: box below set the path to be C:\WinAVR20100110\bin\avr-gcc.exe (adjusting drive and pathname if you installed in a different location - use the file browser button there if you are not sure of the location).

In the make: box set it to be C:\WinAVR20100110\utils\bin\make.exe

Click the [OK] button.

I'm sad to say that nothing changed. The BUILD error message is the same I have been getting, mainly:

0 [main] sh 9592 sync_with_child: child 1456 (0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xc0000142

75171 [main] sh 9592 sync_with child: *** child state waiting for longjmp

/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

I think I can get an AVR Dragon to replace the JTAGICE and use Atmel Studio 7 and forget about trying to use AVR Studio 4.19 in Windows 10 (x32). Too bad because I have several robots with JTAGICE programmers and we will have to stay with Windows 7 (x32) to run them or buy several AVR Dragons. :-( Our lab computers are old and slow and running a small program like AVR Studio 4.19 is fast compared to Atmel Studio 7.

I will continue to monitor the forum for any other suggestions. Thank you to all who have responded...

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Posted by clawson: Tue. Dec 1, 2015 - 09:57 AM

OK so forget Studio for the time being. Just go to the directory where the source and Makefile are located and try to "make" the code. Does that work? (the Makefile may be in a subdirectory in fact).

just need to know how to get AVR Toolchain installed correctly (the install file is a zip file, but where does it go?) and how do I let AVR Studio know where it is ... Sorry for the lack of knowledge here...

Toolchain puts a location into the Windows registry so Studio 4 should just "see" it when it is installed. There's no action required on your part. As I say Studio 4 used to do this for WinAVR too but in the step from 4.18 to 4.19 Atmel changed it so it would no longer "see" WinAVR but only their own Toolchain.

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Posted by AAArroyo: Tue. Dec 1, 2015 - 07:38 PM (Reply to #10)

Clawson:

On the Windows 10 (x32) Machine:

I installed avr8-gnu-toolchain-installer-3.5.0.85-win32.any.x86.exe

It unzips a directory called avr8-gnu-toolchain and it asks for a location. I gave it "C:\Program Files\Atmel\AVR Tools" The directory has subdirectories: avr bin doc i686-w64-mingw32 include info lib lib exec man share avr8-gnu-toolchain-3.5.0.1662-readme.pdf and license-3.5.0.1662.txt

Now I installed AvrStudio4Setup.exe (AVR Studio 4.19 Build 730). It also installs the Jungo USB Driver

I opened AVR Studio 4.19 and open an existing project done with AVR Studio 4.19 on the Windows 7 (x32) machine. The Use AVR Toolchain is checked. I get the message:

Loaded plugin STK500
gcc plug-in: No AVR Toolchain installation found. The AVR GCC plug-in can still be used if you set up your own build tools.
Loaded plugin AVR GCC
Loaded partfile: C:\Program Files\Atmel\AVR Tools\PartDescriptionFiles\ATmega128.xml

I tried BUILD and get:

0 [main] sh 10112 sync_with_child: child 3348(0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
67729 [main] sh 10112 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
rm -rf irtst.o AAA.o IR_CDS_Test.elf dep/* IR_CDS_Test.hex IR_CDS_Test.eep IR_CDS_Test.lss IR_CDS_Test.map
make: [clean] Error -1073741502 (ignored)
Build succeeded with 0 Warnings...
0 [main] sh 5920 sync_with_child: child 6800(0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
65074 [main] sh 5920 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
I"C:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\.." -mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -O0 -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT AAA.o -MF dep/AAA.o.d -c ../../AAA.c
/usr/bin/sh: IC:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\..: command not found
make: [AAA.o] Error 127 (ignored)
mmcu=atmega128 -Wl,-Map=IR_CDS_Test.map irtst.o AAA.o -o IR_CDS_Test.elf
/usr/bin/sh: -Wl,-Map=IR_CDS_Test.map: command not found
make: [IR_CDS_Test.elf] Error 127 (ignored)
avr-objcopy -O ihex -R .eeprom -R .fuse -R .lock -R .signature IR_CDS_Test.elf IR_CDS_Test.hex
avr-objcopy: 'IR_CDS_Test.elf': No such file
make: *** [IR_CDS_Test.hex] Error 1
Build failed with 1 errors and 0 warnings...

---Same Errors as before---

Now I opened the Command Prompt and went to the project directory. Copied the "rm" command from above and it works

c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 5093-6E04

Directory of c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot

11/30/15 12:16 PM <DIR> .
11/30/15 12:16 PM <DIR> ..
10/13/15 11:46 AM 9,865 AAA.c
10/01/15 02:59 PM 1,277 AAA.h
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> Hacked_Servo_Test
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> IR_CDS_Test
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> Motor_Test_1
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> Motor_Test_2
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> Obstacle_Avoid
11/27/15 03:18 PM <DIR> Obstacle_Avoidance_CDS
11/29/15 02:12 PM <DIR> test_EGN_1935_robot
2 File(s) 11,142 bytes
9 Dir(s) 44,712,476,672 bytes free

c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default>rm -rf irtst.o AAA.o IR_CDS_Test.elf dep/* IR_CDS_Test.hex IR_CDS_Test.eep IR_CDS_Test.lss IR_CDS_Test.map

c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default>
c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 5093-6E04

Directory of c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default

12/01/15 01:26 PM <DIR> .
12/01/15 01:26 PM <DIR> ..
12/01/15 01:26 PM <DIR> dep
12/01/15 01:23 PM 2,087 Makefile
1 File(s) 2,087 bytes
3 Dir(s) 44,712,456,192 bytes free

So the "rm" works by hand. Then I tried the make:

c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default>make
0 [main] sh 6660 sync_with_child: child 1888(0x158) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
842 [main] sh 6660 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
avr-gcc -I"C:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\.." -mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -O0 -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT AAA.o -MF dep/AAA.o.d -c ../../AAA.c
make: *** [AAA.o] Error -1073741502

---Now I tried the compile call directly--- Seems to work because it generated artst.o

c:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\default>avr-gcc -I"C:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\.." -mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -O0 -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT irtst.o -MF dep/irtst.o.d -c ../irtst.c

I tried BUILD ALL and got:

Build started 1.12.2015 at 14:24:13
0 [main] sh 8816 sync_with_child: child 4468(0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
68926 [main] sh 8816 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
I"C:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\.." -mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -O0 -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT AAA.o -MF dep/AAA.o.d -c ../../AAA.c
/usr/bin/sh: IC:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\..: command not found
make: [AAA.o] Error 127 (ignored)
mmcu=atmega128 -Wl,-Map=IR_CDS_Test.map irtst.o AAA.o -o IR_CDS_Test.elf
/usr/bin/sh: -Wl,-Map=IR_CDS_Test.map: command not found
make: [IR_CDS_Test.elf] Error 127 (ignored)
avr-objcopy -O ihex -R .eeprom -R .fuse -R .lock -R .signature IR_CDS_Test.elf IR_CDS_Test.hex
avr-objcopy: 'IR_CDS_Test.elf': No such file
make: *** [IR_CDS_Test.hex] Error 1
Build failed with 1 errors and 0 warnings...

Does not appear to me that AVR Studio 4.19 recognized the toolchain. BTW, the reason "rm" and "make" work at all is because the PATH contains C:\WinAVR

Is there anything you would like for me to try?

I also tried:

In the External Tools box untick (if ticked) the "Use AVr Toolchain" box.

In the make: box set it to be C:\WinAVR20100110\utils\bin\make.exe

Click the [OK] button.

Now after BUILD I get:

0 [main] sh 7256 sync_with_child: child 8880(0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
59049 [main] sh 7256 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
rm -rf irtst.o AAA.o IR_CDS_Test.elf dep/* IR_CDS_Test.hex IR_CDS_Test.eep IR_CDS_Test.lss IR_CDS_Test.map
make: [clean] Error -1073741502 (ignored)
Build succeeded with 0 Warnings...
0 [main] sh 1596 sync_with_child: child 10040(0x144) died before initialization with status code 0xC0000142
74764 [main] sh 1596 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/usr/bin/sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
avr-gcc -I"C:\Arroyo\EEL-5666\Fall 2015\EGN Robot\IR_CDS_Test\.." -mmcu=atmega128 -Wall -gdwarf-2 -std=gnu99 -O0 -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -MD -MP -MT AAA.o -MF dep/AAA.o.d -c ../../AAA.c
make: *** [AAA.o] Error -1073741502
Build failed with 1 errors and 0 warnings...

Same type of errors...

(1) It does not appear to me that AVR Studio 4.19 found the installed toolchain.

(2) Even pointing to WINAVR it does not work either

Again, any ideas?

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Posted by fmr300: Sun. Mar 20, 2016 - 12:22 PM

Scottm,

You're the best. Similar to you, just got my first W10 laptop and have tried for about 5hrs to get 4.19 installed..... your tips saved my arse. Very appreciated that you shared.

-mark

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Posted by fmr300: Fri. Dec 9, 2016 - 10:35 AM

Hi ScottM,

Today I tried both of my Win10 laptops, and while 4.19 still runs fine for editing/assembly, neither will connect to my AVRISP MKII or my Dragon. Tested both cards on a crappy old machine running XP and they are fine.

I suspect that a Win10 update broke the USB drivers. I reinstalled 4.19 on both machines and no better.

Have you run into this?

tnx,

-mark

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Posted by gchapman: Fri. Dec 9, 2016 - 02:23 PM (Reply to #13)

fmr300 wrote:

I suspect that a Win10 update broke the USB drivers.

One has 10 days after an update of Windows 10 version 1607 to roll-back an update of it.

If CBB is not stable wrt Atmel USB drivers then that would be at least data, maybe information, to some here.

https://www.askwoody.com/win10-tips/

https://www.askwoody.com/2016/new-windows-10-version-1607-build-14393-479-kb-3201845-rolling-out/ (December 9th, 2016)

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Posted by js: Fri. Dec 9, 2016 - 09:37 PM

If you have installed AS7 on your win10 machines at anytime it is likely that you have installed a newer USB driver which will break AS4.x

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Posted by mzimmers: Mon. Oct 23, 2017 - 09:10 PM

Hi -

I need to get 4.19 working on a Windows 10 box. I've tried following the instructions in the OP, but I can't connect.

A couple points weren't clear to me:

- when I'm finished, should I still see a "Jungo" entry in my Device Manager? (because I do)

- I've run the Studio 4 setup program, and the Windriver Prolific 3.2.0.0 installer. Did I miss something? Oh: I also took my system offline for this.

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Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 04:00 PM

I'm still not getting Studio 4 to connect.

I've followed the steps above, and here's my device tree as a result:

I believe I should have an "Atmel" entry with the correct driver, right?

Also, if I disable my Ethernet driver, it shouldn't be necessary to disable UAC, right?

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Posted by clawson: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 04:02 PM

I see Jungo/WinDriver there - for years that is what Atmel used and if you are stuck using the ancient old version of Studio that is surely what it will be looking to connect to .

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Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 04:10 PM (Reply to #18)

What's driving me crazy is I had this working (about a month ago) and it was easy enough that I didn't bother documenting my steps (I thought I just followed the steps in ScottM's post). And now something's happened, and it doesn't work, and I can't get it working again. Aargh...

I do seem to recall that when it worked, there was an entry in the Device Manager for "Atmel." I believe I need to get this back in order to make this work. Hopefully someone's reading that has been around this tree before...

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Posted by jgmdesign: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 04:38 PM

My Win10 machine was doing fine UNTIL The Evil Empire forced a Win10 Update into the machine which rendered much of my legacy gear - And my video driver card unusable. And apparently theres no rollback from what I can find in teh settings.

My suggestion is to uninstall everything and try reinstalling as an Administrator. Even if you are logged in as one, right click the setup file and click RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR.

I have not tried this myself as I use Studio 6_2 for most everything.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 04:47 PM (Reply to #20)

Yeah, that's kind of what I did (depending on what you mean by "everything"). I uninstalled Studio 4 and the 3.2.0.0 drivers. Same results.

This could be a real situation...

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Posted by jgmdesign: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 05:01 PM

I dont know why you would need AS4.19, but if AS7 is too much for you, then go with 6_2.

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Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 05:54 PM (Reply to #22)

That's a fair question. I detailed my circumstances here: https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/getting-started-atmel-studio

The Cliff notes are that I'm taking over for someone else who's been using Studio 4 to support a product with a Mega1284P CPU. My initial attempts at using Studio 7 resulted in some errors. I'd love to upgrade, though I might have to get new ICE and JTAG devices (not sure).

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 06:07 PM (Reply to #21)

One has ten days to rollback a Windows 10 update.

Previous Windows 10 builds are stored on the local drive but I don't recall how many.

System restore points are another option then it's restore from the backup.

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 06:12 PM (Reply to #19)

mzimmers wrote:

I do seem to recall that when it worked, there was an entry in the Device Manager for "Atmel." I believe I need to get this back in order to make this work.

IIRC, some operation on Jungo though may be a reinstall of Jungo.

fyi, driver updates can be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10.

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Posted by jgmdesign: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 07:23 PM

mzimmers wrote:

My initial attempts at using Studio 7 resulted in some errors. I'd love to upgrade, though I might have to get new ICE and JTAG devices (not sure).

I would bite the $$ bullet and get a new Atmel ICE kit and either go with AS6_2 or AS7. Both will update a 4.19 project to the new ASxx format for you(Make a back up of the original of course).

I did not think that AS4.19 supported the Mega1284, nor the older JTAGICE supporting the device as well.

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Posted by js: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:19 PM

AS4.18

with the REAL JTAG Mk2 plugged in I get this under Jungo

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#28

Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:33 PM

Is this the right product?

https://www.amazon.com/Original-...

I imagine I'd need a new JTAG device as well, yes?

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Posted by jgmdesign: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:42 PM

IS that what Amazon is charging? Go to the Microchip Direct site and see if they can beat the price. I think they are running a special this month

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Posted by mzimmers: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:44 PM

I mainly wanted to confirm that we're talking about the same thing.

But, special or not, the Microchip site is indeed much less expensive:

http://www.microchipdirect.com/p...

Do you happen to know whether they also offer a JTAG connector?

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:52 PM (Reply to #30)

Atmel-ICE

Connecting to a JTAG Target

http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/GUID-DDB0017E-84E3-4E77-AAE9-7AC4290E5E8B/index.html?GUID-A3D62CCB-F7F0-42F4-BEB3-594F8380C1E7

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 08:55 PM (Reply to #25)

fyi, driver updates can be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10.

https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/another-win10-rant-frustration-part-2#comment-2276016

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 09:06 PM (Reply to #25)

IIRC, some operation on Jungo though may be a reinstall of Jungo.

Atmel Studio

How do I get my Tool to be Recognized by Atmel Studio?

http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/GUID-ECD8A826-B1DA-44FC-BE0B-5A53418A47BD/index.html?GUID-E5FD89BC-A8CB-41A4-A383-7C722586107E

This should happen automatically, but sometimes the Windows driver does not recognize the tool correctly. To correct this, you have to check that the tool is listed under the Jungo item in the device manager in Windows. If your tool is not listed, try to find it under Unknown devices. If it is located there, try to reinstall the driver by double clicking the tool, click the Driver tab and choose Update Driver. Let Windows search for the driver. The driver should be reinstalled and the tool should be displayed under Jungo. Now, the tool should be usable from Atmel Studio.

Parent topic: Driver and USB Issues

with maybe two more at

Atmel Studio

Driver and USB Issues

http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/GUID-ECD8A826-B1DA-44FC-BE0B-5A53418A47BD/index.html?GUID-033A42FD-C88B-4874-AC33-7807B5F9C91F

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Posted by gchapman: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 09:12 PM (Reply to #22)

If Atmel Studio 7.0.1416 and sub then there's no Jungo (replaced by direct to WinUSB)

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Posted by jgmdesign: Tue. Oct 24, 2017 - 09:26 PM

mzimmers wrote:

Do you happen to know whether they also offer a JTAG connector?

Yes, that kit has everything according the More Info page

http://www.microchip.com/Develop...

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Posted by randydellinger: Mon. Mar 26, 2018 - 05:49 PM

Using these tips I couldn't get it to install on Windows 10 Pro ver 1709 build 16299.309 (current as of 3/26/2018). After clicking the "Install" button the installer would minimize and then appear to hang. Right-clicking the taskbar and clicking "close" on the installer had no effect.

However, it got it to working after following a tip from this page:

While the installer was minimized, I closed all other running programs, then signed out of Windows which popped up a warning that the setup program was still running. Click cancel and the setup GUI popped up and completed!

Hopefully this will help someone in the future, as this took me a few hours to find a solution.

Another tip on the page was to boot into safe mode and run the installer, but I didn't try that.

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Posted by larryvc: Mon. Mar 26, 2018 - 05:56 PM (Reply to #36)

randydellinger wrote:

Using these tips I couldn't get it to install on Windows 10 Pro ver 1709 build 16299.309 (current as of 3/26/2018).

Why are you trying to install AVR Studio 4.19 when Atmel Studio 7 exists?

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Posted by randydellinger: Mon. Mar 26, 2018 - 06:07 PM (Reply to #37)

I'm taking over a legacy project from another developer that was using AVR Studio 4.18. He claims there is a compatibility problem with the WinAVR compiler with newer versions of Atmel Studio, so he never upgraded. I intend to look into updating to Atmel Studio 7 in the future, but I need to make some urgent changes to the software first.

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Posted by randydellinger: Mon. Mar 26, 2018 - 08:45 PM (Reply to #38)

After installation the code wouldn't compile until I following the instructions at this page: https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/...
to copy a different msys-1.0.dll to C:\WinAVR-20100110\utils\bin.

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Posted by gchapman: Mon. Apr 16, 2018 - 12:33 AM (Reply to #36)

An alternate procedure for Windows 10 1709 build 16299.248 :

Win10 Drivers for AVRISP and AVR Studio 4.19

by Mike Warren

https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/win10-drivers-avrisp-and-avr-studio-419

...

https://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/win10-drivers-avrisp-and-avr-studio-419#comment-2401961

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Posted by gchapman: Mon. Apr 1, 2019 - 04:51 PM (Reply to #40)

Olimex | AVR-ISP-MK2 programmer USER’S MANUAL

Document revision P, February 2018

Designed by OLIMEX Ltd, 2012

...

[page 14]

4.1.1 Driver installation for AVR Studio in Windows

[third paragraph and subsequent]

The author of this document managed to get AVR Studio 4 working under Windows 10 only on a clean Windows 10 installation (that never had any newer Studio installed, e.g. Atmel Studio 6 or Atmel Studio 7). After AVR Studio 4 had been installed, it was safe to install newer studio and using one or the other required manual driver switching. If you installed newer studio first, and then AVR Studio 4, you would probably need to re-install Windows (or find some other workaround, like registry magic) since manual driver switching was insufficient to get it working.

If you are using Windows 10 x64, and you want to use AVR Studio 4 or 5 (notice that this is not Atmel Studio 7 or newer) consider the following driver instillation advice from a customer (thank you, James):

On a new, clean Windows 10 x64 machine:

1. Install AVR Studio.

2. Install WinAVR-20100110 (popular compiler, required to compile many project).

3. Overwrite msys-1.0.dll with 64-bit version (else compiler doesn't work).

4. Connect AVR-ISP-MK2 to the computer. Windows would install some driver automatically and show a message that device installed was installed successfully. This is a lie, it wasn't.

4. Disable Windows driver signature enforcement.

5. Manually point to the appropriate driver that AVR Studio installed (refer to “4.1.3 Manually switching between all installed drivers under Windows”). You might also use the river-atmelbundle-7.0.888.exe from AVR-ISP-MK2-Firmware-WindowsDrivers. The two entries should look similar to the picture below (it is ok if the WinDriver is older version):

[screenshot]

...

[page 27]

...

[Revision] O and P 23.02.18

Updated several links, added manual driver switch details, added information about AVR Studio 4 under Windows 10 x64

[modified page] 14, 15

...

via Olimex | AVR-ISP-MK2 - Open Source Hardware Board

note : match MSYS to the AVR GCC toolchain

MinGW | Minimalist GNU for Windows

AVR and SAM Downloads Archive | Microchip Technology

edit : MSYS2 homepage

edit2 :

Runs at Crossover 10 | Forum for AVR Studio 4 | CodeWeavers

...

If you have problems compiling due to missing WinAVR or AVR ToolChain,
Download and install

[try an Atmel AVR GCC from the Microchip AVR archive]

...

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