New Atmel product: AVR Dragon

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Mine's yet to depart still.

Well it seems to be more advanced than mine. I thought mine was despatched when it only says that :Shipment information received.
Your unit seems to be going all over Europe for some reason!!
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June 27, 2006 12:56
Oslo - Norway Shipment picked up
June 27, 2006 19:26
Oslo - Norway Departing origin
June 28, 2006 04:27
Brussels - Belgium Departed from DHL facility in Brussels - Belgium
June 28, 2006 08:04
Amsterdam - Netherlands, The Arrived at DHL facility in Amsterdam - Netherlands, The
June 28, 2006 08:23
Oslo - Norway Departed from DHL facility in Oslo - Norway

Why is it going from Oslo to Brussels to Amsterdam and then back to Oslo only to be send off again?? :?

edit : hmmmmm someone else is also keeping an eye on things it seems...

John Samperi

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I always keep a good eye on packages - it's strangely appealing.

I *said* that I have bad package karma! My last package managed to bounce all over Europe for several days. I think it's a running joke in the courier companies :P.

- Dean :twisted:

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Keep an eye on SBS news, there may be something about Dragons being spotted flying all over Europe :lol: all we need is Ye Olde Dragon Slayer. On a serious note I think that someone thinks you are in Austria NOT Australia and then somone woke up!! We are the ones with the Kangaroos not the Edelweiss!

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Yes, I'd say your right. Although the shipment address on the confirmation email is correct:

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SEND TO : Dean Camera
FAO : Dean Camera

St Helena
Victoria
3088
Australia

I really wish I kept the tracking number to my last DHL package. It bounced all over Europe before landing in Australia, where it was promptly dispatched to the incorrect distribution facility twice. And one of my other packages went to St Helens which is in Tasmania. I wonder what I did to manage all that!

- Dean :twisted:

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abcminiuser wrote:
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Atmel's tendency to hand out free equipment to those young ...

Got it! :) (It explains why I still have no form of reply from Atmel to my e-mail :))

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Skeleroz, just tell them you're young at heart :D.

Yay, my Dragon's going for another loop to Amsterdam :?. So far its gone Norway->Belgium->The Netherlands->Norway->The Netherlands. Where it stops no one knows!

- Dean :twisted:

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Let's see... mine started in Oslo... moved to Copenhagen. Then it bounced around in four different facilities within Copenhagen before arriving in East Midlands, UK. It made it all the way to Heathrow (a step in the right direction) before apparently bouncing back to Oslo again.

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abcminiuser wrote:

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So far its gone Norway->Belgium->The Netherlands->Norway->The Netherlands. Where it stops no one knows!

Dean, this is how the economy works. With each loop around Europe, taxes are paid to all of these countries. Maybe DHL charges so much for shipping, thay can't deliver your package until all of the wealth is distributed.

At least your Dragon is on the move. All my Dragon has done is sit there for the past three days. I just hope I'm not pushing a walker before DHL decides to start it's journey around Europe.

My courier of choice is UPS - they rule here, in the U.S..

You can avoid reality, for a while.  But you can't avoid the consequences of reality! - C.W. Livingston

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Just curious: If I get the previous posts correctly the "Dragon" only supports JTAG on <=32kB Flash-AVRs. The old JTAGICE (and the various "clones" of it) supports JTAG with AVRs with more memory and an ATmega16 as "interface-controller". Why does a device with much better hardware like the "Dragon" include such a limitation?

Anyway - the device looks very interesting, esp. the DebugWire-support. I hope it will be available soon "everywhere".

Martin Thomas

(Yes, I'm the one who created Evertool based on various information available from Atmel and other sources but I've never investigated the backgroud of the AVR JTAG-protocol which seems to be "secret"anyway)

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Why does a device with much better hardware like the "Dragon" include such a limitation?

Well, the only hint we have got is this wording from Dag @ Atmel in a post on the first page of this thread:
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it supports dW OCD interface and JTAG OCD interface, the latter with the limitation that it only supports devices <= 32K Flash (flash size matters for breakpoint handling).

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The Dragon has landed...

:D

I was thinking of posting some pictures, but decided that those of you that will soon get one should have the pleasant surprize of a really excuisit (spelling?) packaging yourself. Think "two dragons" revisited, and a veeery pretty/stylish little cardboard box. Nice, Atmel!

The Dragon comes with absolutely no printed documentation at all. Do read the initial parts of the Dragon section in the latest AVR Tools Help before you connect anything to it!

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Just post the pictures for us that aren't getting a dragon and tell the lucky ^&%^&^*& not to look!!

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The Dragon has landed...

You lucky $%^&!

And poor me still has not received an email saying it has been shipped...
Me so wonwy....

Post the pictures already! :)

Thank goodness I am due to receive a huge box of parts friday...that will
take the edge off the waiting.

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Gwen wrote:
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The Dragon has landed...

And poor me still has not received an email saying it has been shipped...

have you not received email that said you have a support account assigned to you (step 1) ? OR no notice of shipment (step 2)? or no DHL tracking (step 3)?

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Ok, leedizz an gennlemenn. I give you - DA BOXX!

Colours are not quite true. I immediately associated it with a brownish-red laquer box. Sooo nice.

[Screaming falsetto voice of a cigar smoking older female in Monty Python] Its only a bleeding box!
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does it come with all the little jumpers you need to use it or do I need to start ordering jmper cables from ERE in Thailand

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are those gold donuts for pads or are they dip sockets?

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What you see is what you get. The board with two protective foam sheets in a box. Basta. Finale.

No jumpers. Only VCC header, ISP header and JTAG header mounted. If you want to use the High-voltage-programming header you will have to solder one onto the board yourself. Same goes for the 40-pin EXPAND header, and DIL-socket(s). Read all about in in the AVR Tools help that comes with AVR Studio.

Oh, and no USB cable, so dig out or go buy a A-B USB cable too.

Now be quiet everyone! I'm about to try to connect the Dragon to the STK500 (now housing a brand new mega88) without letting any smoke out of neither. :shock:

Once again: Thank you, Atmel folks!

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Thanks a lot johan for the pics.
Still cant stop drooling !!!
Can you post a closeup of the pcb so that we can see all the ICs used on this board ?

Thanks :) and man i envy you :)

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Thanks for the pics Johan!

Anyone know what the Chinese on the lid translates to?

Gwen, you really let yourself go since summer started!!! You're much shorter and rounder, but I guess you have more energy since you're bouncing around!!!! :shock:

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Mission accomplished!

Done for this evening. A long day is taking its toll on my concentration and I'd hate to fry the lovely little thing on the first night due to stupid sloppiness.

The JTAG clone makers will probably have a hard time from now on...

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"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

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Oh well my dragon has been picked up and the shipment is on hold :( ....probably still trying to figure out "where in the hell" is Australia :lol:

I hope we have a quick delivery now and that it doesn't DRAG ON ...oh I made another funny :lol: just as well I like my own jokes.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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Man DHL has some of the weirdest routing..first day made it from Oslo Norway to Copenhagen Denmark and then all the way to UK within 24 hrs!!!!!
But I guess that was to damn fast for DHL so somehow they shipped it back to Oslo Norway where it started 36 hours before!!!!!
Now its waiting for the journey to begin again in Oslo!!

Maybe the customs papers are not in order OR maybe DHL pilots GPS is broken OR just mabe someone took a look at the RED BOX and said hell no we aint shipping this!
:shock:

June 28, 2006 01:08 East Midlands - UK Arrived at DHL facility in East Midlands - UK

.....TWILIGHT ZONE.....!!!!!! 8)

June 28, 2006 08:23 Oslo - Norway Departed from DHL facility in Oslo - Norway

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I figured out what's happening!! They are climatizing the Dragon for Australian conditions...making it skip all over Europe pretending to be
a Kangaroo :lol: I'm getting better!!

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

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have you not received email that said you have a support account assigned to you (step 1)

I got an email saying that one will be sent soon as possible.
It had some kind of number with it.

Maybe they ran out and must wait for more... that's ok :)

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Its only a bleeding box!

I love cute boxes :)

That looks like a box of candy I got awhile back....

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Gwen wrote:
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Its only a bleeding box!

I love cute boxes :)

That looks like a box of candy I got awhile back....

Oh really Gwen? And which poor broken-hearted strapping young local lad gave you that? :lol:

Dragon still stuck in Amsterdam. I guess it wants to see the sites before being confined to my bedroom ;).

- Dean :twisted:

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ahhh figured it out.......Johan said in his post there was NO DOCUMENTATION INCLUDED.....they forgot it!!!! they all had to go back to Oslo so the documentation could be put in the RED BOX !!!:lol:

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js wrote:
Oh well my dragon has been picked up and the shipment is on hold :( ....probably still trying to figure out "where in the hell" is Australia :lol:

Australia is between Germany and Hungary. Everyone knows that.

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Gwen, you really let yourself go since summer started!!! You're much shorter and rounder, but I guess you have more energy since you're bouncing around!!!!

Well, after seeing Johan's great pix of the mighty dragon and it's amazing box I am swooning! so
I changed the avatar to match :)

:Dean: actually i got it at school...some kind of presentation about careers in high tech.
They gave all the girls a box of candy (only girls at my school)...how sweet and how fattening!
They should have handed out multimeters and an AVR butterfly instead of candy and tiny LED flashlights?
What were they thinking....

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They are climatizing the Dragon for Australian conditions

Is it true that it's summer in Aus when it's winter here in US?
If so I am going to need 2 houses someday so I can chase the sun.
I hate cold weather...
(how can those people in Norway stand the cold :))

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Gwen wrote:
They gave all the girls a box of candy (only girls at my school)...how sweet and how fattening!
They should have handed out multimeters and an AVR butterfly instead of candy and tiny LED flashlights?
What were they thinking....

man when I was in school some 40 plus years ago all it took was flowers!!! I would never have though Multimeters was Priority ONE these days when a young man comes a calling!

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bluegoo wrote:
Gwen wrote:
They gave all the girls a box of candy (only girls at my school)...how sweet and how fattening!
They should have handed out multimeters and an AVR butterfly instead of candy and tiny LED flashlights?
What were they thinking....

man when I was in school some 40 plus years ago all it took was flowers!!! I would never have though Multimeters was Priority ONE these days when a young man comes a calling!

Well bluegoo, if you weren't so wrapped up in all of those play toys on your work bench for the past 40 years, you'd have noticed that times have defenitely changed.

When I first met my wife 35 years ago, I would have bought the little woman a Fluke DMM, if she would have only asked!

You can avoid reality, for a while.  But you can't avoid the consequences of reality! - C.W. Livingston

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yes MicroCarl sometimes I question my prioritys

so MicroCarl how is your shipment doing...is it at least crossing the Atlantic yet or are you experiencing the same DHL routing thru the Twilight ZONE back to Oslo?

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When I first met my wife 35 years ago, I would have bought the little woman a Fluke DMM, if she would have only asked!

Hmmm--now I >>know<< that the tall tales are starting. Betcha a cold one that DMMs were rare if not non-existent in 1970. And double-or-nothing I'll bet there was no Fluke at all. [off to Google to back up my claim...]

Anyway, my wife sometimes gets shiny new tools as gifts from me. Since she usually has no particular use for them, into my toolbox they go.

Lee

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Well, I lost the double-or-nothing for sure:

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Since its founding in 1948, Fluke has ...

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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theusch wrote:
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When I first met my wife 35 years ago, I would have bought the little woman a Fluke DMM, if she would have only asked!

Hmmm--now I >>know<< that the tall tales are starting. Betcha a cold one that DMMs were rare if not non-existent in 1970. And double-or-nothing I'll bet there was no Fluke at all. [off to Google to back up my claim...]

Anyway, my wife sometimes gets shiny new tools as gifts from me. Since she usually has no particular use for them, into my toolbox they go.

Lee

well my first Fluke Benchtop DVM was sometime in the middle to late 70's pretty sure...blue case with 7 segment led displays....but I am so organized I can not find it right now to check the serial number and date :shock:

found it Fluke 8300 -1975 ish

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Anyway, my wife sometimes gets shiny new tools as gifts from me. Since she usually has no particular use for them, into my toolbox they go.

that last part is an interesting strategy Lee!

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1975 ish

Hang on to that! It's an antique :)

I got my multimeter at a place that sells mostly tools from china...it was like 4$ or so. (Harbor Freight)

Then I got 2 free ones in orders from circuitspecialists.com.
(The Yellowish one is the one i bought)

I took the pic in near dark just so you could see the pretty green
LED lights on the yellow meter :)

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In an attempt to drawn this thread further wayward, mostly due to freebie envy, and a dash of nostaglia...

I do remember when Hewlett Packard were revered for their beautiful test gear (weren't those dinky buttons so sweet?) and personal computers were the stuff of movies.
Then we had lovely oscillators made by a character called Wayne Kerr. My purile mind at the time found that very funny. Unfortunately I have never improved :D but I do retain a soft spot for for nice test gear.

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so gwen with a nice collection like that of DVM's just what type of DVM is a young man going to need to be calling with?
something like this http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+190.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnitedStates :)

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Hey Johan :)

Your laptop looks just like mine....
I keep it in the living room on the coffee table
so I can make skype calls while I (sortof) watch TV :)

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so gwen with a nice collection like that of DVM's just what type of DVM is a young man going to need to be calling with?
something like this http://us.fluke.com/usen/product...

WoW!
I want that!!!!

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Hang on there.
Something has just slip through the net.

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Australia is between Germany and Hungary. Everyone knows that.

I thought it was Austria.

Ken

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Has anyone seen a distributor taking orders yet?

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Australia is between Germany and Hungary. Everyone knows that.

I thought it was Austria.


When I went to a Library Automation conference in Germany (30 years ago) my badge had AUS on the bottom. People kept assuming I was Austrian.
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...my wife sometimes gets shiny new tools as gifts from me...

My daughter got the birthday present that she wanted from her husband - a top-end compound sliding mitre saw ($****)!
C.H.

ps. I'm still waiting for my STK525

C. H.
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It's only waste if you don't use it!

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Well, I know that many europeans have a blurry idea about they're borders (Spain is part of Africa??). Since Australia is just in the opposite part of the world, and with many kangaroos jumping on it, it should be an island bouncing all arround the Pacific sea, so they should teach the planes how to catch that little island.

And remember that for many central european guys (specially germans) there is only one Island in the middle of the sea: (my native) Mallorca. ;)

Guillem.

Guillem.
"Common sense is the least common of the senses" Anonymous.

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Yeah! Just back in the office from business trip to Israel today to find DHL package waiting for me that was delivered yesterday containing the shiny new Dragon. Like the Butterfly you open up a big DHL packet to find within it a small padded Jiffy bag and then inside that is just a small box looking not much big than a king size packet of fags but what's in that box looks amazing. I really appreciate tightly packed SMT designs and this one packs an awful lot onto a board that's about 3" by 1.5"

The lack of anything else in the box apart from a URL pointing to www.atmel.com/avrdragon is a little disconcerting - but what else could one expect for $50? (except that we didn't pay that anyway ;) )

I just wish I had the time to actually fire it up but sadly real work beckons :(

Cliff

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My Dragon shows absolutely no movement. DHL checked it into their tracking system, and there it sets - at the starting line.

Was my Dragon slain at birth or, is it being held captive in a cage, enslaved to the whims of DHL? As my Dragon is a real Fire Breathing Dragon, I hope DHL doesn't get burned!

You can avoid reality, for a while.  But you can't avoid the consequences of reality! - C.W. Livingston

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Better to have a Dragon sleeping, then a drunk Dragon! Mine's still stuck at Amsterdam. At least Carl seems to be sharing my bad package karma :?. I must have offended the package gods when I was young - quick, we must sacrifice a PostIt Pack!

- Dean :twisted:

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Ooo!
Mine made it back to Heathrow again this morning!

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well it appears my Dragon after spending 36 hours flying between Oslo-Copenhagen-UK- then back to Oslo, finally got its bearings and drank enough swill to cross the Atlantic ....now it is actually in the USA and has successfully made it thru Immigration Check...appears to be on final approach sometime in the next 24 hours.
Now I need to install the AVR Studio SP3 betaware on a spare computer , get out those Debug Wire chips I have not used, and clear a space on a bench for its arrival. :D
Just in time for a rainy weekend! 8)

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