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Why is AVR Studio 4 so very painful for upgrading (and the original installation)? There are three main problems, none of which should be hard to solve (since virtually every other downloadable program does it better):

1. Why do we have to uninstall the old build before installing a new build? It's a completly unnecessary extra step.

2. Why do they insist on having a self-extracting zip file of the installation files? There are two standard ways to make a download bundle - a real zip file, for those who like doing things manually, or a directly executably installation/setup program. AVR Studio's system gives the worst of both worlds, and leaves piles of junk files in your temp directory (ready to interfer with the next installation).

3. Why can't AVR Studio 4 remember where it is supposed to go? I suppose this comes from the uninstall, but life is much easier for regular updaters (like me) if programs spot that they are upgrading an old version, and can re-install in the same directory.

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I was found the same things myself, just let me comment a few details:

1. The main reason why you would like to remove all old stuff is to be sure that no old files lay around and make bugs in the new version, this is most important in Beta stage.

2. This should not be a problem for the development team to solve, thay probably just made it easy since time should be spent on the software and not the installer.
I recommend Nullsoft´s NSIS installer, free to use and very powerfull! Links:
http://forums.winamp.com/forumdi...
http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nsis/

3. Yes! No comment.

/Anders

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A manual uninstall is not necessary to ensure there are no left-over files. The new install should simply write over the files that it needs to use. If it is really necessary to delete old files, then the install program should do that. The current system is a serious pain when using NT or W2K - AVR Studio 4 will not install without Administrator rights (this is just laziness on the part of the developers - administrator rights would only be needed if the program used the parallel port). Under W2K, you can fairly easily run the install program as administrator while logged on as a normal user, but to uninstall the old version you first need to re-logon as administrator. A real time-waster.

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You are right.
Removal of old files could easily be done with the new installer instead.
As I see it, they choose to do it with the uninstaller instead, may be a little bit easier depending on how the installer/uninstaller works.

But, there may be a deeper meening to this, what do we know :-)
As you say: it is a pain as it is now!

/Anders

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Nullsoft installer?
Those free software guys have quite a sense of humor. Is it any wonder why most people are afraid to use it in their product?
Lets see- I check their web site from the link you povided-
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SuperPiMP™ technology (so advanced, so amazing, we won't even tell you what it is).
...
Won't my clients be thrilled when they read that! :-) ROFL

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Haha, yea, they are fun!

(Hope you don´t diss NSIS for this reason)