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Hi,

Maybe someone from Atmel can answer this one...

Are there any demo or freeware packages out there one can experiment with to see the capabilities of the fpslic without actually investing in the development software/hardware ?

I have several potential applications for this, but would kind of like to see how much of the capacity of the chip a rough initial design takes up before deciding that system is the way to go.

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Hi Jon,

If you find something, I'd really like to know too.

I joined the Circuit Cellar/Atmel design competition with a number of good ideas for using the FPSLIC and got a sample chip.

That was before I realized that using the chip would cost me hundreds of $'s to design anything.

I'm back to using Altera chips instead. They realize that the more people that can design and use their chips, the more they sell. So they offer the design package for FREE, as well as documentation on download cables e.t.c.
Atmel could learn somthing there (, but, looking back, they probably wont).

As I see it, the FPSLIC is completely useless and uninteresting for for hobbyist.

/Jesper
http:/www.myplace.nu/avr

/Jesper
http://www.yampp.com
The quick black AVR jumped over the lazy PIC.
What boots up, must come down.

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... I believe the lowest cost entry to the FPSLIC is the $495 for 4 months ATSTK94 ... or alternate packages get you a year for $995 ... this is cheap for the tools you get but certainly not typical hobby pricing ...

I don't know what level of experience you have with FPGA's but ( in my opinion ) unlike processors and many CPLD's which you can get free or shareware software and go at it .... I haven't seen freebie FPGA design tools that are particulary useful ... since you typically want a synthesis package and some type of VHDL simulator ... etc.... if you really want to draw value conclusions about the capability of a device ..

I see a number of interesting applications for the FPSLIC when their lower cost devices become available

my 2'c only, good luck, Khim

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I have a bit of experience in custom cpu design on the Xylinx stuff for quite a few years ago. Nothing more recent.

I don't see the point in a manufacturer making expensive tools for a mass production chip. It is not like the tool is useful for any other purpose.

As for a hobbyist budget - that is not what I am after at all. I have a legitimate application for thousands of units, and that series of chips may well fit the bill - but from a few glossies, I can't really tell whether my design will "fit" in the chip or not, or if there is some fundamental reason it can't be done with that sort of chip.

I wouldn't even care if there was a demo version that you could only simulate the thing with and not program the chips. That sounds fair for a demo version right guys ? Then if that proved the concept I would be more than willing to invest in the real development system to churn out the actual chips.

My reasoning is why invest anything other than some time until I know the system will actually do what I need it to do ?

There seems to be a lack in general of stuff like the appnotes for the avr series. I realize the fpslics are new, but even some appnotes and the percentage of resources they take up would give a good indication of what is possible with the chips.

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