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Posted by bianchi77: Sat. Jun 21, 2014 - 10:58 PM
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Guys,

Why DS1307 loose data every Sunday, and I need to reenter the data again ?
I got like this every Sunday midnight ..

Any ideas / same experiences ?
Thanks

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Posted by Kartman: Sat. Jun 21, 2014 - 11:17 PM
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You're obviously doing something wrong. What that is - we have no idea of. How about you try some debugging of your own.
You didn't respond adequately to Johan's question, so does that mean you want to waste more of our time?

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Posted by jpmargis: Sat. Jun 21, 2014 - 11:25 PM
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It looks to me like you are running the demo version of the DS1307. It only runs until midnight Sunday. Buy the full functionality license and enter the code to avoid this problem. :wink:

 

In consideration of others, please RTFM!

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Posted by ka7ehk: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 12:45 AM
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What library are you using?

Jim

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Posted by valusoft: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 01:49 AM
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The DS1307 "knows" all about the days of the week, and... Sunday is a "day of rest". So...

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Posted by theusch: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 01:56 AM
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Any ideas / same experiences ?

Frankly, no. Are you saying that Dallas Semiconductor and then Maxim has sold millions and millions of DS1307 RTC chips, and none of them can count past Sunday, But millions of people have purchased more and more of them over the past decades?

js and Kartman and valusoft: Are there any directional mounting considerations when using RTC in the Southern Hemisphere?

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Posted by bianchi77: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 02:09 AM
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valusoft wrote:
The DS1307 "knows" all about the days of the week, and... Sunday is a "day of rest". So...

I think so, it does like this always every sunday...I tried to put all the PCB layout exactly with DS1307 asked me to do...
Probably in the code...

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Posted by bianchi77: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 02:16 AM
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Kartman wrote:
You're obviously doing something wrong. What that is - we have no idea of. How about you try some debugging of your own.
You didn't respond adequately to Johan's question, so does that mean you want to waste more of our time?

Ok, thanks for the reply, I don't mean to waste everbody's time, like I said you have a freedom to answer, if you don't want to answer or you don't have the answer or you don't understand the question and don't know how to answer, just ignore it, simple and easy.....like I've told you take it easy...
there's no need to be upset and angry...
we're here in the forum helping each other, not saying who is right and who is wrong, do you think you're right always ? I'm not sure....no body is perfect mate, just remember....take it easy...and smile.... :wink:

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Posted by Kartman: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 03:12 AM
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You're just not getting the message are you? it's a question of respect - you don't seem to put much value on our responses - a simple problem gets drawn out because you don't take the time to think your problem through. Have you actually read other people's questions? Have you noticed that the ones that are well described get solved quickly. These people have made an effort to help themselves. We've tried to teach you techniques to solve your own problems, but you don't seem to listen. Considering the number of offhand responses you've got so far, do you think you've annoyed just a few of us? I'm not asking you to kiss my ass but i would like it if you took a bit more time to think about your problems, do some debugging and to do some searching before you consider posting on a forum. Put it this way, if we charged you $100 per question, would you be a bit more considered with each question you ask?

As for your current problem - i'd guess you're gone off the end of an array and you get a crap string - nothing to do with the ds1307,apart from it doing what it should.

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Posted by valusoft: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 07:30 AM
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bianchi77 wrote:
valusoft wrote:
The DS1307 "knows" all about the days of the week, and... Sunday is a "day of rest". So...

I think so, it does like this always every sunday...I tried to put all the PCB layout exactly with DS1307 asked me to do...
Probably in the code...

If it works CORRECTLY on the other days of the week, the hardware is correct, so there must be something wrong with your code.... so show it because nobody here is clairvoyant.

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Posted by ka7ehk: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 02:56 PM
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It "has" to be your software. How else would you get 80 identical characters on the screen? That cannot be the clock's fault! But nobody can tell you any more without code.

Jim

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Posted by bobgardner: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 04:12 PM
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The software guys always think the hardware is broke, and the hardware guys always think the software is broke.

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Posted by theusch: Sun. Jun 22, 2014 - 05:10 PM
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Related prior discussion?
https://www.avrfreaks.net/index.p...
Excerpts:

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Will fix Monday Morning.

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Synchronize it to the first stroke of the church bells every sunday morning. That will keep it really accurate!

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Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?
If so I can't imagine why
We've all got time enough to cry

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Posted by awneil: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 08:08 AM
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bianchi77 wrote:
we're here in the forum helping each other

Are you :?:

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Posted by dbrion0606: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 08:13 AM
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Is there a sunday-less country?

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Posted by DO1THL: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 08:23 AM
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Is there a sunday-less country?

Yes, Ursa Minor Beta, where it is always saturday afternoon, at least according to the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy.

Einstein was right: "Two things are unlimited: the universe and the human stupidity. But i'm not quite sure about the former..."

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Posted by Kartman: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 08:24 AM
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Hopefully it fixes itself for Monday. Wouldn't want to be late for work.

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Posted by clawson: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 09:18 AM
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In all the DS1307 circuits I've ever designed I've ensured the chip is socketed so the dead ones can be removed on a Sunday and replaced with fresh ones for the coming week. You'd have thought Maxim-Dallas would have resolved this issue by now but I guess it's in their interest to retain the problem as it sells a LOT of chips when they are known to only work for 7 days.

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Posted by dbrion0606: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 09:29 AM
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"I've ensured the chip is socketed so the dead ones can be removed on a Sunday and replaced with fresh ones for the coming week. "

How were they replaced:

a) by a human being, working on Sundays? that is immoral.

b) by a robot? But how could the robot know it was Sunday? (maybe its clock stops : then, it may work slowly)

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Posted by clawson: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 09:56 AM
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We trained long nosed [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-nosed_caenolestid]caenolestids[/url] to do the chip replacement. Their snouts are perfect for digging under the chip and levering it out of the socket. Sadly a shrew snout does not last that long so we then have to replace the shrews on a rotational basis too :-(

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Posted by valusoft: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 10:04 AM
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Little wonder they are so endangered; losing one every week for every installed DS1307. You should be ashamed!

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Posted by danni: Mon. Jun 23, 2014 - 10:37 AM
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I see no reason to be annoyed.

A question without any informations generate answers with no informations too.
So it seems a perfect fitting thread.

Please watch, clairvoyants are not present on this forum. :)

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