tiq probe- on Kickstarter - Last days! Ends June1st!

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Thanks to all the AVRfreaks for the views and interest in tiq - the project is now LIVE on Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/proj...

Thanks for all the support and encouragement!

Regards -

Mark

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I'm preparing to launch a Kickstarter campaign and wanted to preview it here on the forum. I'll post the link when the campaign goes live.

The product is a handheld debug probe called "tiq".

tiq is a much-updated take on logic probes, with a high-performance pulse analyzer and a pulse generator built into a low cost handheld probe.

tiq is intended as a first-line and field tool, not a replacement for other tools, to give fast, detailed information for zeroing in on problems "“ many times it could be all you need.

Here's a video about tiq:

http://youtu.be/aNhjCvGdqkA

Please let me know if you have any questions about tiq.

Don't let the smoke out -

Mark

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Last Edited: Wed. May 28, 2014 - 07:54 PM
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Nice device.
Are you looking to take orders here? If so then the thread will be moved to the trading forum.

Can you post specs on the device? Max input voltages, min/max pulse widths etc...

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Jim - not looking to take orders here at this time - desire would be to let people know about the Kickstarter campaign (starting in next 2 weeks). Assuming a successful Kickstart then seems I should be on the trading forum?

I will post some specs and more details tomorrow. There are a few more details on www.innavatus.com in the mean time.

Thanks -

Mark

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Just looked at the site. You might want to add Atmel to the list of I/o compatibilities as you have M*chip listed.

Just sayin'. ;)

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Jim - I can't believe I left that off - fixed!

Mark

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Have you carefully checked what is already available ?
This: B7205J seems similar
Make clear what differentiates your tool from the others.

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ossi:

Not a lot of info on the web about B7205J (specs), but as it's targeting automotive I expect it's a 12V tool with a moderate bandwidth for sensors etc. (kHz?). tiq is specifically for 3.3V and 5V embedded logic systems, with MHz performance. I'll be posting some specs here shortly.

I've been using and collecting test equipment for >40 years and I can state with confidence that there has never been a tool with the combined features and capabilities of tiq (I know that's a bold claim but I am willing to prove it!).

Regards -

Mark

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Features and high-level specs for tiq:

- Handheld, displays all information close to the probe tip (if you look away, the probe WILL slip!)
- Automatic function switching based on node activity, fully autoranging - no adjustments required!
- Logic state probe with LCD, LED and audible indicators
- Logic pulse analyzer (frequency, pulse high & low times, duty cycle)
- DC to 20MHz, pulse analysis down to <100nS (66MHz sample rate)
- Auto-ranging and auto-polarity voltmeter (+28Vdc to -13Vdc)
- Built-in logic pulse generator
- <100nS to 999mS, n pulses or continuous (66MHz clock)
- 3.3V or 5V logic levels
- USB powered - connect directly to your development PC, USB battery etc.

Let me know your questions -

Mark

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So... you have to have a PC or laptop connected before it can be used? Pity.

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Ross - nope, the power input is just a USB jack. You can power from your PC (most convenient if your target is connected to the PC anyway), or from a floating USB adapter (phone charger, car cigarette lighter USB etc.), or from a low cost USB battery (in the field). Plenty of options, most of which are already on our benches.

Regards -

Mark

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Mark,

Did you consider an internal Li-X battery, charged via any of your aforementioned usb attachments? A minor price increase for heaps of more convenience IMO.

Cheers,

Ross

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Ross - yes, definitely considered a battery - and this is the 2nd most asked for feature. The first most asked for feature is small size and weight, so they're in direct conflict!

The tiq probe launching on KS soon will not have a battery, possible we'll offer this as a future option.

Regards -

Mark

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It looks interesting, I am all too familiar with the "if you look away the probe will slip" rule. However, it seems to be designed for those of the sinister persuasion. If the LCD is graphical, have you considered the option of flipping the display and duplicating the buttons for us right-handers?

Four legs good, two legs bad, three legs stable.

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John - yes, the prototype is very sinister :twisted: - it is for a left hander (me)! Do people really use their right hands??

Seriously, yes, the Kickstarter (and subsequent) modesl will be offered in RH and LH versions.

Cheers -

Mark

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How 'bout using a graphic display 'stead of a character display so users can select sinister or dexter so you don't have to make two versions.

I like that the display is near the tip so you don't have to look away from what you're probing.

Oh. I didn't read John close enough. Make that 2 votes for a universal item.

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Yes, graphic display would solve the display part, but also minor inconveniences with the buttons (!) and the LED "headlight" etc. Several alternatives under consideration, but rest assured - the KS models will include support for right-brained and left-brained users :D There's even been a suggestion of a DUAL display for those times we all use our other hand (grudgingly)!

Cheers -

Mark

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Dual buttons and dual headlight would surely be easier/cheaper. But it's your project, I'll but out.
I might be interested in one though, be sure to tell us when you stick it on Kickstarter.

Four legs good, two legs bad, three legs stable.

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Appreciate your inputs, really! All going into the pot..

Thanks for your interest and support.

I will definitely post here when live on KS (it's approved by KS, I'm finalizing a few details - definitely this month (April)).

Cheers -

Mark

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Attaching a picture of the prototype tiq showing user interface and I/Os for reference.

Regards -

Mark

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Thanks to all the AVRfreaks for the views and interest in tiq - the project is now LIVE on Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/proj...

Thanks for all the support and encouragement!

Regards -

Mark

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Firstly, a HUGE thank you to the awesome AVRfreaks early backers! Thank you for your interest in tiq and your support. It's not always easy to be an early adopter! Had a very strong start, thanks to you - please do let your friends know about tiq. We've got a ways to go yet on the KS campaign, but hard at work on the production version.

Production Version Enhancements

Received great inputs on tiq from hundreds of supporters, especially here on AVRfreaks, working hard to incorporate the most-desired features and changes into the production version of tiq - to make it even more useful and easy to use!

In the coming weeks I'll update the thread regularly about the progress and exactly what your KS rewards units/production units will look like.

Probe Tip

I've had several people ask for sharp tips, and for ability to change tips (in case they are damaged etc. and to be able to change out for other types of tips). The prototype tiqs have permanently attached tips, and they are more of the "DMM" type than "sub-mm SMT type" (they're supplied by a very well known US test clip manufacturer).

Current plan for the production probe tip is to rigidly mount and recess a standard 4mm banana plug inside tiq so that it can accept a variety of off-the-shelf probe tips. The housing will support the tip body, so the tips will be very solid.

Plan to supply tiq with a very nice replaceable probe tip, with a slender and SHARP stainless steel pin - which is also replaceable. And will supply spare pins, too! Testing and evaluating other off-the-shelf tips that will be compatible with tiq.

Power, Ground and Pulse Generator Connectors

Several supporters here have asked for auxiliary power connectors on tiq, apart from the standard USB power connector. In cases where tiq is powered directly from the device under test this could be more convenient, and auxiliary connectors would allow flexibility in cabling and connecting tiq.

Prototype tiqs use standard 0.1" pin headers for auxiliary ground and pulse generator outputs, worried that these are not robust enough for heavy use, planning to change these out for something much more robust.

So, planning to add compact, robust, standardized connectors for auxiliary power (+5V) and ground, for the auxiliary grounds (2x) and the pulse generator output pin. I'll have some pictures soon.

Enclosure

The tiq enclosure is a large part of the KS production plan - involving injection molding tooling and lots of detailed design. Supporters have given many inputs on this, including "make it as small as possible", "keep it light", "make it comfortable to hold" - so pushing hard on all these issues!

Looks like shouldn't have to increase volume, despite burying a 4mm plug, support and tip housing "channel" in the enclosure (it's quite a bit of volume that was previously mostly outside the enclosure). Will know in the next few days, and will post progress on this in future updates.

Thanks again to our supporters and backers - please keep the questions coming, and please remember to share tiq with folks you know will find it useful!

Keep on tiq-ing!

Mark

Last Edited: Sun. May 11, 2014 - 02:25 AM
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markhen wrote:
...especially here on EEVblog...
I wonder why that leaves me underwhelmed?

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Please forgive my cut and paste error... I guess I'm only human, after all...(above - fixed)

I've just posted a tiq update on the Kickstarter page (update #2). I'll summarize here, full update is at:

[url]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1866698905/tiq-probe-a-new-way-to-d...

Quick summary:

- tiq will be at the Bay Area Maker Faire next weekend (May 17-18 ). Contact me if you want to experience tiq in person! email: tiq@innavatus.com, Twitter: @Innavatus

- brighter, larger LCD selected for production - you have to see the difference to believe it!

- replaceable probe tips with replaceable needles for production

- 2mm banana jacks for ground connections (3x), 5V power input (in addition to the USB plug) and pulse generator output

- 3D model of the revised enclosure, now curvier and sleeker - currently out for 3D printing

Keep tiq-ing!

Mark

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Please forgive my cut and paste error... I guess I'm only human, after all...(above - fixed)

I've just posted a tiq update on the Kickstarter page (update #2). I'll summarize here, full update is at:

[url]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1866698905/tiq-probe-a-new-way-to-d...

Quick summary:

- tiq will be at the Bay Area Maker Faire next weekend (May 17-18 ). Contact me if you want to experience tiq in person! email: tiq@innavatus.com, Twitter: @Innavatus

- brighter, larger LCD selected for production - you have to see the difference to believe it!

- replaceable probe tips with replaceable needles for production

- 2mm banana jacks for ground connections (3x), 5V power input (in addition to the USB plug) and pulse generator output

- 3D model of the revised enclosure, now curvier and sleeker - currently out for 3D printing

Keep tiq-ing!

Mark

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Thanks to the AVRfreaks who have supported tiq so far! The Kickstarter campaign ends June 1st, so if you're interested in supporting bringing this concept to reality, please head on over to Kickstarter!

Best regards -

Mark

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tiq featured on Hackaday at the Maker Faire!

[url]http://hackaday.com/2014/05/29/tiq-probe-is-more-logical-than-most/[/url]

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I saw that! Looks pretty slick!

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