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 Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 02:18 PM |
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Someone was asking if Atmel have integrated IEEE802.15.4 radio and micro.
Well, today ATmega128RFA1 was announced. Enjoy. |
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 04:35 PM |
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ATmega128RFA1 was announced.
"Available now".
20x faster A/D (than your father's AVRs).
Onboard voltage regulators. |
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 04:51 PM |
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| From technical point of view it's pretty good chip. I guess we'll have to see if it is really available. |
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 05:36 PM |
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We happen to be designing a line of wireless sensors right now. They will be AVR-based. If truly "available now" then it would be nice. But I'm not holding my breath.
On a side note, it appears that some "libraries" are available. I haven't registered or downloaded yet. But I happen to be a CodeVision user--certainly a manstream AVR compiler, that in fact claims the most registered users. Anyway, there are loud and vociferous claims that Atmel does not have favoritism when it comes to compiler brands.
OK, when code is made available for RF or QTouch or similar, is it available for CodeVision and ImageCraft? or only for other selected compiler brands? Alternatively, is the source available for porting?
Don't get me started. 
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 06:12 PM |
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| I wonder how much the eval boards go for. |
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 06:39 PM |
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I wonder how much the eval boards go for.
Probably a moot point as it will take as long to get into the supply chain as a '1284 or Xplain or Xmega or ... . (there is a part of "available now" that I always fail to understand.) |
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 09:25 PM |
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Probably a moot point
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 09:31 PM |
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| But I got my name into the thread for a free sample |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 09:03 AM |
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> But I happen to be a CodeVision user--certainly a manstream AVR compiler,
> that in fact claims the most registered users.
Pretty cool claim, when one of the major "competitors" is opensource where
you don't have to register. ;-)
Just curious, did Codevision finally go the C99 route? After all, the current
C standard celebrated its 10th anniversary now, and the ISO consortium is already
drafting a successor that is currently titled "C1x".
The Atmel 802.15.4 MAC software has always been available as source code, btw., but
as far as I can tell it might make use of a number of C99 features. Route under
MAC is also available as source code. |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 09:44 AM |
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Excellent!
Been waiting for a 802.15.4 soloution for the stk600 for some time now  . This one-chip soloution seems good as well. The new 802.15.4 software library can't be downloaded yet though. the download link just sends you to a picture.
Hope the evaluation kits will be available soon! |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 09:59 AM |
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Ned_Zeppelin wrote:
The new 802.15.4 software library can't be downloaded yet though. the download link just sends you to a picture.
BitCloud and MAC can be downloaded right now. I don't see any pictures. Or you are looking for some other software? |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 10:14 AM |
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| OK. Sorry about that. It works now. It didn't work when I tried it last night, so I figured they hadn't fixed it yet |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 04:37 PM |
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Ooops, no X in between AT and mega parts of the word?
Time to check for that beast.
Anyway, I doubt that all SW had been ported to that IC. |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 04:54 PM |
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Guillem Planisi wrote:
Anyway, I doubt that all SW had been ported to that IC.
That's mega1281 (with minor changes to reduce power consumption) and at86rf231 on single die. at86rf231's registers are mapped into mega's memory, signals from pins are also mapped into single register.
Porting is pretty straightforward.
BitCloud and MAC have been ported and available. |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 08:05 PM |
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| with the demise of Meshnetics, what manufacturers can we go to if we seek an OEM module for 802.15.4 via Atmel, where the module is type certified by the regulatory authorities (FCC in the US) ? Competing with Digi XBee, Jennic, et al for apps that want to start with a certified module, not a chip? And a module with an optional PA/LNA for more than a couple of mW? (noting that France, Japan, etc. have low EIRP limits). |
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 08:12 PM |
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stevech wrote:
with the demise of Meshnetics, what manufacturers can we go to if we seek an OEM module for 802.15.4
Atmel continues to manufacture ZigBit modules under its own brand.
Modules are in stock now, not sure if you can sell them without certification, so they must be certified.
PS: What this has to do with megaRF? |
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Posted: Dec 11, 2009 - 06:16 AM |
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Ah thanks! I found ZigBit modules at DigiKey. I mistakenly thought these were dropped by Atmel - you don't read or hear about them in Atmel's announcements. The DigiKey catalog does show stock on hand if you search by part number, but searching by ZigBit doesn't index, nor are they indexed under Atmel/Wireless. Some items are still marked Meshnetics in their database.
But glad to see they exist.
Regarding the '15.4 MAC code for ZigBit modules - is it in synch with that for the dev kits we read about here? Is source for a ZigBit version of the MAC (and demo apps) availsble?
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PS: What this has to do with megaRF?
sorry if I confused - just thinking that the new chip would soon become a ZigBit module, or the equivalent from a module manufacturer. Yes? |
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Posted: Dec 11, 2009 - 06:36 AM |
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stevech wrote:
you don't read or hear about them in Atmel's announcements.
It was in the initial press release right after acquisition.
stevech wrote:
Regarding the '15.4 MAC code for ZigBit modules - is it in synch with that for the dev kits we read about here? Is source for a ZigBit version of the MAC (and demo apps) availsble?
I don't know about Atmel's MAC much. BitCloud uses its own version.
stevech wrote:
sorry if I confused - just thinking that the new chip would soon become a ZigBit module, or the equivalent from a module manufacturer. Yes?
MegaRF pretty much eliminates the need for module. |
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Posted: Dec 12, 2009 - 01:03 AM |
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Posted: Dec 12, 2009 - 01:07 AM |
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| You can only use a 2D flatpack version in that case, not the 3D version.... |
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