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EW
PostPosted: Jan 10, 2010 - 02:03 AM
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... 20100110 is now uploaded to SourceForge.
 
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2010 - 06:54 AM
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This is the final release of WinAVR Question Shocked
 
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..I'm sure not..there will be many more. Smile

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That's what the WinAVR user manual say's. Sad

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That's what the WinAVR user manual say's. Sad


That's probably a typo, and was supposed to read "a final release" (as opposed to a Release Candidate build or Beta Release). Eric is being bankrolled by Atmel to keep producing WinAVR, and I doubt they'd kill off the project.

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Not being ready to install right now, I'm being stumped trying to find the release notes without installing. I'm pretty sure I've done this before but can't recal now how. Anyone in the know?
 
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10.3 Future
For all intents and purposes, this is the last release of WinAVR. The underlying tools contained in the WinAVR distribution will, of course, continue to be developed. For future toolchain distributions for Windows and other other operating systems please refer to Atmel Corporation.

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Aha! So it'll be incorporated into an official Atmel sanctioned package, rather than Atmel supporting Eric unofficially. Just so long as they don't include Eclipse, I'll be happy Smile.

Oooh, this release includes Splint!

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JohanEkdahl wrote:
Not being ready to install right now, I'm being stumped trying to find the release notes without installing. I'm pretty sure I've done this before but can't recal now how. Anyone in the know?

The download page normally has it. I see the release notes for previous versions but not this one.
I'am actually talking about the WinAVR manual though.


http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr/files/

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Aha! So it'll be incorporated into an official Atmel sanctioned package

Signs of the next major release of AVR Studio, perhaps. Smile

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Just so long as they don't include Eclipse, I'll be happy

I'm willing to concur, as long as they base the next AVR Studio on some other cross-platform IDE (with an open plugin interface/framework, and a similar number of plugins already available). Wink
 
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While I can see Atmel's argument that it confuses beginners who want to use (free) C that they have to go to two places to get the necessary bits I can't help wondering how happy Asm programmers or those that don't want to use GCC are going to be when the Studio download bloats from the already ridiculous 130MB to 160MB ! (DiBosco is going to be SO happy). Hopefully they'll offer two downloads - with and without C (it'd be good if we could ditch battery and radio studio too!)

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If the new Studio is an entirely different architecture (that is, a customized version of Eclipse or something) I'd imagine that it would consist of a base install, plus a bunch of downloadable modules. That way Atmel could have seperate plugin downloads for Battery Studio, etc. and avoid the bloat.

Granted Atmel could do that NOW with AVRStudio 4, but not to worry.


Personally I like the "built specifically for AVRs" aspect of the current AVRStudio version, even if the editor sucks. I'd MUCH prefer they integrated a better editor module (such as SCITE, used in Programmer's Notepad) into a dedicated product, than made something like AVR32 Studio - which no mortal could possibly understand.

Eclipse in my opinion is a great example of jack of all trades (and then some), yet master of none. Too damn confusing and SLOW for my tastes.

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Not being ready to install right now, I'm being stumped trying to find the release notes without installing. I'm pretty sure I've done this before but can't recal now how. Anyone in the know?
Open/extract the exe with 7Zip.

(avr32 stuff inside- intentional or unintentional?)
 
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2010 - 02:07 PM
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OK, I read that statement a little more carefully. Notice my emphasis
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For future toolchain distributions for Windows and other other operating systems


If the avr-gcc toolchain will be supplied directly from Atmel, and will be supplied for several different OS'es then this to me increases the probability that Atmel is indeed planning for a cross platform AVR Studio. If so IMO good news indeed!
 
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So it'll be incorporated into an official Atmel sanctioned package, rather than Atmel supporting Eric unofficially. Just so long as they don't include Eclipse, I'll be happy

But--but--but--I have been told several times here, including by the horse himself, that Atmel has NO compiler brand preferences. This was in discussions about certain "free" libraries only being provided for a couple of compiler brands. And early model samples (e.g., Xmega) seeming to be available only to a couple of compiler brands.

So, going forward if you want to use cool AVR stuff--touch, integrated RF, network RF, USB, motor control--you had better be prepared to start building your drivers totally from scratch, or to get into line and don't waver from the sanctioned compiler brands. Gee, at that point (if compiler brand needs to be changed) why keep the focus on the Atmel/AVR model selection? Let's look at the other brands...
 
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EW
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Sorry about not having any release notes for this version yet. SourceForge changed their system yet again, and how they do their uploads. At the moment I can't seem to figure out how to upload notes without it being some separate file.

The Release Notes for the WinAVR releases are really just the beginning section of the WinAVR User Manual. For 20100110 the release notes are:

Here's a sample of what's new:
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- AVR32 GNU toolchain

- Splint 3.1.2
Splint is a tool for statically checking C programs for security
vulnerabilities and programming mistakes. Splint does many of the
traditional lint checks. More powerful checks are made possible by
additional information given in source code annotations.

- New Device Support

- Component Version Upgrades

============================================================

Points go to atomicdog who spotted that bit of news in the WinAVR User Manual. I'm surprised that someone actually reads it.

I cannot, of course, corroborate any other rumours or speculation as to what this all means.
 
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EW wrote:
I cannot, of course, corroborate any other rumours or speculation as to what this all means.
However, if you could, perhaps via private means, you might just get some really good beta testers for free.

Smiley

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EW
PostPosted: Jan 10, 2010 - 05:57 PM
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smileymicros wrote:
EW wrote:
I cannot, of course, corroborate any other rumours or speculation as to what this all means.
However, if you could, perhaps via private means, you might just get some really good beta testers for free.


Unfortunately, I couldn't, even in private.

I can neither confirm, nor deny,.....
 
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2010 - 07:57 PM
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Since this contains the AVR32 toolchain, can I go ahead and uninstall my separately installed Atmel AVR32 toolchain package? Which one is more up to date?

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So far, I was under the impression that the WinAVR project is open source...

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