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 Posted: Jun 23, 2010 - 01:16 PM |
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Just collect a couple of posts here at 'freaks from "involved persons" and there it is.
But one of those "involved persons" just turned out to be a "normal Joe":
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 377#716377
so I'm not sure exactly what inside view we really get here. Though I admit (mostly from Eric's comments about the demise of WinAVR) that it does look likely that Studio 5 is going to be a clone of AVR32 Studio but with avr-gcc rather than avr32-gcc under the hood - that is an Eclipse wrapper around GCC. The fact that Eric's last WinAVR included both avr-gcc and avr32-gcc makes it likely that Studio 5 will really just be Eclipse with BOTH avr32-gcc and avr-gcc. (so we all get to download 10's of MB's we don't want) |
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Posted: Jun 23, 2010 - 01:49 PM |
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But one of those "involved persons" just turned out to be a "normal Joe"
So strike the Normal Joe's from the list. The number of persons with real insight is still .gt. zero. |
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Posted: Jun 23, 2010 - 02:08 PM |
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The number of persons with real insight is still .gt. zero.
Someone other than Eric or Joerg? I must have missed some posts somehow. |
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Posted: Jun 23, 2010 - 08:13 PM |
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Someone other than Eric or Joerg?
That's two. And in my book that is .gt. zero. With margin, so removing one of them would still make fon a non-empty set of people in the know. |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2010 - 03:53 PM |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2010 - 08:11 AM |
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Hi all,
are there any news about when the AVR Studio 5 will be released?
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Posted: Jul 22, 2010 - 08:28 AM |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2010 - 04:17 PM |
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I agree, having a collapsing ability for functions would be nice. But, even more helpful would be the "Goto Definition" for functions, variables, include files, etc.
fiim__ wrote:
There are many things which it would be desirable to see in the new version.
But the majority of them - or is too difficult for realising
or they are not especially important.
But there are two things which really very much HELP with programming
and which thus very simply to realise (I the programmer and in my program they are)
What it is two things? Is, first, COLLAPSING FUNCTIONS (not sections,
there are enough functions)with the BUTTON of the COMMON COLLAPSING on the MAIN PANEL.
And secondly, it is instant jumping to the declaration
of FUNCTIONS(AND VARIABLES!), and RETURN BACK.
Presence of these simple things, personally for me,
accelerates programming in very times. And simplicity of their implementation
speaks about making it not in the fifth version, but in version 4.19!
Good luck)))
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Posted: Aug 25, 2010 - 07:42 PM |
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ArnoldB wrote:
poppirs wrote:
Hi all,
are there any news about when the AVR Studio 5 will be released?
Thanks
If you promise not to tell anyone, you can peek at something http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... mp;t=95389
That thread reveals a "package" which, among other things, contains the avr-gcc toolchain in a new incarnation. It does not, however, contain any preview of AVR Studio 5 AFAIK.
Just a hunch: AVR Studio 5 will be a major re-haul, to the extent that nothing a single piece of AVR Studio 4 will remain. There will be all sorts of goodies, like code collapsing, code completion, re-factoring, code browsing etc. This is nothing that I know for sure - it's just a hunch  .
We are all eagerly waiting, and I rather have it that Atmel concentrates on getting Studio 5 out the door than i) giving promises they are not sure they can keep and then ii) spending energy on dodging the flames because of that. Just be patient and there will be a little piece of heaven as soon as the Atmel deities can manage. Building a new Studio is a wee bit more work than just coming up with a new universe so it might take a little longer than six days...  |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2010 - 10:41 PM |
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We are all eagerly waiting,
Not me.  I'll stay away from any radical changes to Studio for a couple of years. Still fresh memories of the changeover from V3 to V4. |
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 10:21 AM |
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i) giving promises they are not sure they can keep
It would be fantastic if they had learnt this lesson. Dishonest (sorry over optimistic) info turned us off using them. I'm looking forward to the new studio, but I can wait until it's 'a slice of bugfree heaven'. Anyway roll on the new tools, I know that there will be some engineers out there who will be better off sticking to what they know but I for one am looking forward to playing |
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Posted: Aug 26, 2010 - 10:00 PM |
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subject is self-explainitory
[and for those who cannot see it this user wrote "What happened to F7 build on 4.18??? Bring it back!"] |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2010 - 10:42 AM |
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sxpilot4,
I'm using 4.18.716 (the final issued version of SP3) and for another thread I just built the same program five times. While I don't usually use it I pressed [F7] each time to build. It works just fine in my copy of AVR Studio - in case it was Asm rather than C you are talking about I just checked F7 in that too - it works there.
By the way, in normal view, the "Subject:" field of all posts except the first post in a thread are invisible (though, curiously they are shown in search results). The Subject: of the first post is used as the thread title. So in future forget "Subject:" and put any text you want to be visible in the body of the post. |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2010 - 01:00 PM |
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| May already have been requested but I'll say it again. When an .elf file is opened for debugging or programming automatically select the MCU if it is specified. Sometimes I end up with the same file name for e.g. ATTiny45 and 85 versions. Also, as the drop down menus get longer and scroll ever faster, device selection becomes a sort of irritating video game. |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2010 - 09:16 PM |
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AS5 should be less malicious when connecting to USB devices.
If avrdude can talk to it, AS5 should too. |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2010 - 10:25 PM |
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This is huge post, and seam to many are a bit frustrated with some A4 features. I'm quite new, but at first sight I found one quite annoying "feature" in A4. That is file names in tabs which are shown with full path. Since some (in my case all) files are very deep in directory structures, very offer only ONE file is shown in tabs.
So, there should be option switch for editor to show file's without path. |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2010 - 10:33 PM |
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mbruck wrote:
This is huge post, and seam to many are a bit frustrated with some A4 features. I'm quite new, but at first sight I found one quite annoying "feature" in A4. That is file names in tabs which are shown with full path. Since some (in my case all) files are very deep in directory structures, very offer only ONE file is shown in tabs.
So, there should be option switch for editor to show file's without path.
There IS an option in version 4 to turn this off. Just go to Tools->Options, select General on the left and look for the "Filetabs" combobox at right. Change its value to "Filename only." If you have any tabs open, you'll have to click their names to actually have the change take effect (or just close and reopen all your source windows).
Perhaps version 5 should have this as the default setting. |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2010 - 10:38 PM |
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I just tried to delete my post since I found that option, but you where faster answering...
Thank you any way ! |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2010 - 10:54 PM |
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I agree, having a collapsing ability for functions would be nice. But, even more helpful would be the "Goto Definition" for functions, variables, include files, etc.
fiim__ wrote:
There are many things which it would be desirable to see in the new version.
But the majority of them - or is too difficult for realising
or they are not especially important.
But there are two things which really very much HELP with programming
and which thus very simply to realise (I the programmer and in my program they are)
What it is two things? Is, first, COLLAPSING FUNCTIONS (not sections,
there are enough functions)with the BUTTON of the COMMON COLLAPSING on the MAIN PANEL.
And secondly, it is instant jumping to the declaration
of FUNCTIONS(AND VARIABLES!), and RETURN BACK.
Good luck)))
Me agree too! One vote more for this. |
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Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 12:35 PM |
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Hello!
I would like to see a cross platform development environment!
The second thing that I like to see is a command line simulator with a scripting interface. It could be python or ruby or something else. And the possibility to send from the simulated program informations to the terminal. It is important for unit testing. |
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