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 Posted: May 09, 2007 - 04:52 AM |
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users handling an uninsulated pcb on the workbench and death by static charge still makes me wonder about the robustness of the Dragon product design..
I have a little trick I use for things like that. My main customer is constantly shipping me boards for which I develop firmware, and they are never in packages.
My trick is to cut out a piece of cardboard (from the box the board came in, which is guaranteed to be big enough) and attach it to the bottom of the board using insulated solid hookup wire - by punching holes in the cardboard and then using either mounting holes on the board, or in the case of the Dragon, wrapping the wire across it to trap it, then knotting the wire.
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Posted: May 09, 2007 - 05:00 AM |
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dmonn wrote:
Given the widespread distribution of stk500 PDFs, etc., AND the fact that the Dragon has been released for some time...it's a bit odd. I'm a firm believer that greater distribution of documentation isn't only helpful, it's an incentive to purchace a product
I agree.
when I was deciding to buy a dragon for my own use at home the other month, it really sucked having to download the entire 70+ MB absolute latest AVRstudio to my net computer at work, then sit through installing it (dev computer is not online, and I'm not a habitual software updater if all seems to be running fine for me with what I want to use) JUST TO CHECK WHAT AVRS THE DRAGON WOULD WORK ON!
Yes, a simple PDF with all the info on what I could expect from the dragon would have been really handy, and quite frankly, it's a bit retarded that the info isn't up there. |
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Posted: May 09, 2007 - 05:26 AM |
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gongzi wrote:
They better ship my order placed on Apr 25th before I changed my mind to switch back to microchip. Microchip currently is running a 16bit design contest which you can buy a ICD2 + starter board for 99USD. Sounds a better deal to me.
I'm regreting just ordered AVR dragon+stk500. I should ordered icemkII which can be used with AVR32 as well. I don't want to wait until Jun 28th if I order it now.
hahaha! you could have ordered a complete proper tool-set for your new microcontroller that you're planning to develop code on..... A full dev board with breakouts and options for any 8 bit AVR you'd like to test, plus a proper JTAG programmer and in circuit emulator for any 8 bit AVR..... for just US$150..... and you went for the slightly cheaper, but much more limited option? ....why would you do that?
PS, if all you want is an ISP programmer (like whats in that totally *awesome* US99 microchip deal) then just go and get an STK-500. it's got ISP and parallel programming built in.
PPS, if you need your tools before June 28, then buy them somewhere else. You don't have to buy from digikey. Yes they're more expensive elsewhere, but at least they're available... and even the cost of a full priced jtagice mk2 and a full priced STK500 is nothing compared to the dev costs of a substantial product. |
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Posted: May 09, 2007 - 02:08 PM |
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digitool wrote:
Just a little update. Received the Devkit1 (Dragon + STK500 combo) and the dragon was DOA ( no leds on) so called Digi-Key and because the order is for both it is required that both be shipped back for the RMA (or RFE if you like). I asked that since it was only the dragon that was at fault why not just it.The reply was that it was to keep things in the respective P/N which is for both items.
Thanks for the 'heads-up.' My original plan of immediately storing the (virginal) Dragon for the future and using the STK500 looks like a bad move...
With the # of failure reports here (admittedly anecdotal), better setup and test the Dragon before storage. |
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Posted: May 09, 2007 - 09:08 PM |
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Joined: Feb 04, 2007
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Location: Naples province, Southern Italy
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| Wonderful...Are you from Europe? Then it's only 98,76€!! Digikey for any registered user from euro's area...place this bundlekit at about 100$... |
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Posted: May 10, 2007 - 02:17 AM |
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Location: Berlin (Germany)
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Sorry you are way too late !!!
Two weeks ago the price for AVRDEVKIT1 was 37,98€ 
Btw. I paid 116,28€ for a AVRDEVKIT2  |
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Posted: May 10, 2007 - 08:32 AM |
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fbi wrote:
Sorry you are way too late !!!
Too late?! I am very happy to NOT buy (anything) from Digikey...it isn't serious a company that sells the same product three times for the europe. |
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Posted: May 11, 2007 - 01:43 PM |
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After two weeks of waiting. The AVRDEVKIT1
was arrived. But my order is AVRDEVKIT1 + AVRDEVKIT2.
Digikey seprate the delivery.I suppose that Digikey
would charge me another USD$60 for AVRDEVKIT2 shipping.
Anyone has similar experience? |
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Posted: May 16, 2007 - 11:14 PM |
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| Well, Digi-Key notified me that my STK500/Dragon kit shipped today. The shiping notice comes exactly two weeks from the day that the order was placed. Though, they still show no actual STK500/Dragon kits in stock. The kit is shown as "Quantity Available 0 - Value Added Item." |
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Posted: May 16, 2007 - 11:21 PM |
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Location: New York
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| I just ordered my STK500/Dragon kit from Digikey today (05-16-07) and was told my order should ship two weeks from today. Hopefully they will get it back in stock soon! |
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Posted: May 17, 2007 - 03:29 AM |
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That's it i'm ordering a JTAG II as well!
I'll sell the STK500 on e-bay!
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Posted: May 17, 2007 - 07:32 PM |
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Location: Netherlands
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| Mine has shipped as well, less than two weeks after ordering. |
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Posted: May 18, 2007 - 08:05 PM |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| My STK500 + Dragon just shipped from Digikey, so they had at least one yet. About 7 days from order to ship. |
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Posted: May 18, 2007 - 11:21 PM |
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Joined: May 30, 2004
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Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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| I got my STK500/Dragon kit today. UPS said that it would be be delivered this coming Monday. It was three days early. It's cool with me... |
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Posted: May 19, 2007 - 12:10 AM |
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Joined: Nov 14, 2001
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Location: Charlottesville, VA USA
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Ordered my STK500/Dragon kit yesterday. Thought I would post in this thread in case it becomes one of those threads where Atmel decides to give something away  . |
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Posted: May 19, 2007 - 01:53 AM |
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dmcinnes wrote:
That's it i'm ordering a JTAG II as well!
I'll sell the STK500 on e-bay!
Darren
It's shipped already!
2 Days!
Darren |
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Posted: May 19, 2007 - 04:33 AM |
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jasonsp6 wrote:
I just ordered my STK500/Dragon kit from Digikey today (05-16-07) and was told my order should ship two weeks from today. Hopefully they will get it back in stock soon!
UPDATE: Two days later... To my surprise I received an email from Digikey saying my STK500/Dragon kit was shipped out today! |
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Posted: May 19, 2007 - 06:48 AM |
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Location: Seattle, WA
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tedavr wrote:
After two weeks of waiting. The AVRDEVKIT1
was arrived. But my order is AVRDEVKIT1 + AVRDEVKIT2.
Digikey seprate the delivery.I suppose that Digikey
would charge me another USD$60 for AVRDEVKIT2 shipping.
Anyone has similar experience?
You can tell them to wait for everything to be ready before shipping. That is what I typically do. You will be charged for both shipping fees. |
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Posted: May 19, 2007 - 09:09 AM |
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Posted: May 22, 2007 - 12:43 AM |
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| Ordered AVRDEVKIT2 on Friday, shipped today. They have 239 STK500's now. |
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