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ARhodes
PostPosted: Apr 05, 2007 - 02:16 PM
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Atmel has a promotion going where they're selling the STK500 plus the Dragon together for $49. I'd been planning on buying a single STK500 for $79, so I was pretty blown away and I ended up buying two of these bundles from Digi-Key yesterday. So, if my brain didn't explode, I could work on 4 projects at once.

Apparently, this hasn't been promoted aggressively yet. I was actually the very first person to buy this bundle.

I suppose this means a new dev board could be in the works and Atmel is trying to dump their stock of the current boards.
 
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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2007 - 02:32 PM
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> So, if my brain didn't explode, I could work on 4 projects at once.

Well, to have fun, leave it at two projects. The "development area"
of the Dragon is just an add-on only and cannot match with the options
the STK500 is offering you. OTOH, once you learned love the emulation
features of the Dragon, you wouldn't want to develop much on an STK500
without having the Dragon to debug it there.

It has been discussed here before, both together are really a nice bundle
(unless, of course, you have to handle AVRs with > 32 KiB of ROM, where
you need the genuine JTAG ICE).

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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2007 - 02:34 PM
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Well they had this offer before Christmas and a number of people benefitted - but it's GREAT if it's back again! (but I fear Digikey shippingto Europe will be high and I'll bet it's a US only thing)

Dumping non-RoHS stock certainly sounds like the most likley motive.

EDIT: Yup, had a look at ordering two sets - its $57 for delivery to the UK - then there'll be import duty and VAT. Still a bargain - two STK500, two Dragon for $157 - question is: do I or don't I? (44th birthday tomorrow so maybe I do)

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It has been discussed here before, both together are really a nice bundle
(unless, of course, you have to handle AVRs with > 32 KiB of ROM, where
you need the genuine JTAG ICE).
Digikey also has this: AVRDEVKIT2-ND = BUNDLE ATSTK500 + ATJTAGICE2 for $150 ?

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It's interesting, when you look at the description for ATJTAGICE2 it says "Contains Lead, RoHS Non-Compliant". I'm kind of suprised by that - I thought it was modern enough to have been a RoHS design. But this does seem to suggests that it is dumping non-RoHS stuff that may be behind this

Perhaps these offers should come with a health warning? Wink

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Cliff: Oh yes... [big red label] WARNING: USING ATJTAGICE2 MAY LEAD TO LEAD POISONING! USE AT OWN RISK!

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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2007 - 03:30 PM
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> USING ATJTAGICE2 MAY LEAD TO LEAD POISONING! USE AT OWN RISK!

Nope, rather:

EATING ATJTAGICE2 MAY LEAD TO LEAD POISONING! USE AT OWN RISK!

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clawson wrote:
44th birthday tomorrow ...


Cliff,

As it is "tomorrow" here right now ("at the third stroke it will be" Cliff's birthday).

Happy birthday from Down Under!

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PostPosted: Apr 05, 2007 - 03:59 PM
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There have been rumours of the new-generation STK500 for years. I hope that they don't dump it entirely and suggest the Dragon as the substitute. I rarely use the DIP sockets, but often use the variable Vtarget for testing---VTG is very close to the setting in 'Studio, and it is very convenient to ramp up and down to test at different levels.

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daqq wrote:
MAY LEAD TO LEAD POISONING!

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How could anyone ever learn English, full of words like this spelled the same, pronounced differently, meaning different things?
 
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bobgardner wrote:
How could anyone ever learn English, full of words like this spelled the same, pronounced differently, meaning different things?

This is why the say it's the second most complicated language to learn after Chinese as there are so many context sensitive nuances and exceptions to standard grammar rules. It's just a shame for the rest of the world that our imperialist past means that about half of them are forced to try and understand it! (including US in fact - though I think they've almost got the hang of it now Wink )

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valusoft wrote:
Happy birthday from Down Under!

Many thanks from an old man.

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Contest: be the first to tell us what these words are called that are spelled the same, pronounced differently? (I know, but it took me a long time to find it... no prize... I'm too poor)
 
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Homographs - but it took a bit of googling to refresh my memory as the last time I heard that was about 33 years ago when I was being taught English grammar

There's also homophones and homonyms which are kind of related.

Isn't it interesting that there are folks who actually discuss this on dedicated message boards:

http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/frequ ... ently.html

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How could anyone ever learn English, full of words like this spelled the same, pronounced differently, meaning different things?


Uhm, it's correct isn't it? I fortunately learned it as a kid 'cause my dad studied (and later taugh) in the States. But I'm not sure about the grammar part...

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Glad I read the post. I just ordered (from Digi-Key) the $49(US) bundle. Now I will have a backup STK500 and the Dragon.
PS: Read is another of those english words that can have different meanings
 
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tubecut wrote:
Glad I read the post. I just ordered (from Digi-Key) the $49(US) bundle. Now I will have a backup STK500 and the Dragon.
PS: Read is another of those english words that can have different meanings


When I looked this past Sunday, the pricing had CALL and it showed zero in stock. Having a backup STK500, I elected to just order my Dragon and forego the STK500.

What I should have done was, order two Dragons. Oh well, there will be a "Next Time".

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Carl, I just ordered the part and , according to sales, was in stock. The digi-key web site showed Qty One. So, I am not sure if I got the last one or not. I have never used JTAG before except on a MicroChip product and it had a slow update. I am hoping that the Dragon will allow in circuit debugging with not a lot of problems. I have read several post and it seems there are problems (?) using the Dragon. Oh well. I will soon see.
 
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Digikey also has this: AVRDEVKIT2-ND = BUNDLE ATSTK500 + ATJTAGICE2 for $150


if thats real a jtagice2 for half price is a great deal!
thanks for the heads up...ordered the one remaining ATdevkit2-nd in stock...

Although the ATdevkit2-nd shows no more stock they do have over 100 of the ATSTK500 and over a hundred of the ATJTAGICE2 in stock..so just maybe if one backorders them they will CREATE a ATdevkit2-nd from available inventory...

tubecut..I believe the good thing about that dragon bundle you ordered is that the 6 pin jumper cable you need for the Dragon for DBW is included in the STK500 kit (not sure) and like many others have found out is missing from the Dragon by itself! So you may be ready to go when you get it...
 
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PostPosted: Apr 06, 2007 - 03:42 AM
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tubecut wrote:

PS: Read is another of those english words that can have different meanings


Huh? In my "book" it only has two tenses, present and past....not different meanings, unless you might be confusing it with "reed".

But who am I to dispute it.... Rolling Eyes

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