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 Posted: Jul 18, 2011 - 03:16 PM |
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I didn't mean that WinAVR should have an IDE or editor bundled with it at all, I just wondered about the current state of the current tools it has.
I don't want WinAVR to have a VS based IDE, that's why I loathe AS5.
I thought the back end was seperate from the VS based front end. I wondered if that back end would be repackaged in WinAVR etc for those that don't want to use AS5.
Otherwise I was just wondering what the current state of WinAVR is? |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2011 - 03:26 PM |
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I am not part of "the team", but the current state seems to be that there is work planned or even on-going for a new release of WinAVR.
The core of this has always been a complete tool chain (compiler, linker and other binutils, avrlibc runtime library), and added to that values like AVRDude for programming AVRs, parts of debugging solutions (that I do not understand, like AVaRice), the excellent Mfile utility.
I would expect that this "core" will be very similar in the upcoming release.
It has also come with the Programmers Notepad editor, but you could just as well use your own favourite editor or IDE. A change here would not surprise me. Get me right, staying with PN would not surprise me either. Not would a WinAVRnext relese without any editor/IDE.
If "the team" actually has any clarifications, detailed plans or some such that can be shared at this time, I'm sure we'll see them when he passes by this thread. |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2011 - 05:08 PM |
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srg4096 wrote:
Hi All
I was just wondering what the bottom line with development of the next version of WinAVR is and also with clawson's nice debian/ubuntu packages.
I made the Ubuntu packages, based on the latest linux buildscript packages (from this thread), at that time.
Clawson was/is kind enough to provide hosting , as i can't do that.
I did offer to make a Ubuntu package of the "older AS" toolchain , but was asked to hold back on releasing an AS5 Toolchain , due to the state of the patches.
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 255#809255
And as it a bit of work to make the Ubuntu package , and there was no response ... I never bothered.
The AS buildscript is here
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 245#803245
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Posted: Aug 06, 2011 - 11:28 PM |
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| What is the appropriate way to get an updated toolchain on linux and osx at this point? |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2011 - 08:53 PM |
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For OSX i guess you have to build it your self,
For Linux i'd do the same , but i think Atmel might have something for Linux.
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Posted: Aug 07, 2011 - 08:56 PM |
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Bingo600 wrote:
but i think Atmel might have something for Linux.
/Bingo
I would be delightef if this is true. Do you hava any references to back it up ? |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 03:20 AM |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 10:05 AM |
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atomicdog wrote:
markus_b wrote:
Bingo600 wrote:
but i think Atmel might have something for Linux.
/Bingo
I would be delightef if this is true. Do you hava any references to back it up ?
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 744#834744
This is not about linux, but just a standalone version of the AVR-gcc for Windows provided by Atmel (standalone=without the Microsoft GUI). The sources/patches are included, so you can build a Lknux or MacOS version yourself.
For me this does not qualify as 'having something for Linux'. |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 02:28 PM |
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markus_b wrote:
atomicdog wrote:
markus_b wrote:
Bingo600 wrote:
but i think Atmel might have something for Linux.
/Bingo
I would be delightef if this is true. Do you hava any references to back it up ?
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 744#834744
This is not about linux, but just a standalone version of the AVR-gcc for Windows provided by Atmel (standalone=without the Microsoft GUI). The sources/patches are included, so you can build a Lknux or MacOS version yourself.
For me this does not qualify as 'having something for Linux'.
The second link was for linux.
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools ... ily_id=760 |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 02:48 PM |
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[quote="atomicdog"
The second link was for linux.
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools ... 60[/quote]
So I stand corrected.
I'm unable to access either link right now. It seems my mobile android browser I us here at at remote cabin or the flaky gprs connection don't cut it. Will check it out next week at home. |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 02:50 PM |
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I'm unable to access either link right now. It seems my mobile android browser I us here at at remote cabin or the flaky gprs connection don't cut it. Will check it out next week at home.
Solar flares might be affecting satellite communications.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... grid-risk/ |
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Posted: Sep 11, 2011 - 07:28 PM |
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Uploaded a new toolchain .deb package to : http://www.wrightflyer.co.uk/avr-gcc/
It's based on the Atmel AS5 patches , gcc-4.5-1 and also include avr-libc-1.7.1 and the new avrdude-5.11
Note ... Atmel calls the patches for AS5-beta but these are the ones they released , when they released their own AS5 toolchain.
The files uploaded are :
avr-gcc-4.5.1-AS5-avrfreaks-11-sep-2011-u10.04.i386.txt
avr-gcc-4.5.1-AS5-avrfreaks-11-sep-2011-u10.04.i386.deb
avr-gcc-4.5.1-AS5-avrfreaks-11-sep-2011-u10.04.x64.txt
avr-gcc-4.5.1-AS5-avrfreaks-11-sep-2011-u10.04.x64.deb
They have only been slightly tested , use/test on your own risk.
EW has requested that i do not release the buildscripts , as he is working on integrating the patches in a better way.
All sources are accessible as per GNU.
Url to AS5 patches are somewhere in this thread.
Please make dure that the directory /usr/local/avr is empty or non-existant before installing the package.
Ie.: Remove the old .deb package or .....
See here for some possible bugs in AS5 , that would also be present in this toolchain (sorry ... I didn't know).
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 192#870192
The AS5 toolchain simply looks to "sick"
I'll ask clawson to remove the packages from wrightflyer
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Posted: Sep 11, 2011 - 10:33 PM |
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Bingo,
thanks for the work, appreciated ! |
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Posted: Sep 12, 2011 - 09:15 AM |
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I'll ask clawson to remove the packages from wrightflyer
They're gone now. |
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Posted: Sep 12, 2011 - 06:33 PM |
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Uploaded a new toolchain .deb package to : http://www.wrightflyer.co.uk/avr-gcc/
It's based on the old "Trusty" avr-gcc-4-3-4 , avr-libc-1.7.1 , avr-insight-6.8-1a and the new avrdude-5.11
I switched the naming-convention , in hope of a better grouping on wrightflyer.
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-12-u10.04.i386.deb
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-12-u10.04.i386.txt
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-12-u10.04.x64.deb
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-12-u10.04.x64.txt
They have only been slightly tested , use/test on your own risk.
Make sure /usr/local/avr is empty/"non existant" before install
Edit:
The avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-12 versions
have been removed , due to a serious bug in avrdude 5.11.
Get the avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-20 versions
/Bingo |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 04:24 PM |
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Uploaded a new toolchain .deb package to : http://www.wrightflyer.co.uk/avr-gcc/
It's based on the old "Trusty" avr-gcc-4-3-4 , avr-libc-1.7.1 , avr-insight-6.8-1a , avarice-2.11 and the new avrdude-5.11.1 (Bugfixed)
I switched the naming-convention , in hope of a better grouping on wrightflyer.
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-20-u10.04.i386.deb
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-20-u10.04.i386.txt
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-20-u10.04.x64.deb
avr-gcc-4.3.4-avrfreaks-2011-sep-20-u10.04.x64.txt
They have only been slightly tested , use/test on your own risk.
Make sure /usr/local/avr is empty/"non existant" before install
Comments should go here:
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 495#870495
/Bingo |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 04:44 PM |
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| Do any of the Atmel toolchain "improvements" or support for new devices have any chance of seeing the light of day in here (after bug smashing)? |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 05:02 PM |
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If the Atmel toolchain "improvements" , finds it way into the FreeBSD repos , then yes.
It seems a bit like it is going to function this way.
Atmel toolchain "improvements" from (Atmel AS) is being merged into the upstream avr-gcc
Eric/SprinterSB and others are doing lots of other fixes to upstream.
Then ...
1: Eric does WinAVR , based on upstream & "maybe other magic"
3: Eric & Jörg coordinates
4: Jöorg does FreeBSD
5: I do FreeBSD -> avr-freaks buildscript
So Atmel/Eric/Jörg/SprinterSB does all the hard work 
I just make it build on linux
/Bingo |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 06:05 PM |
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Bingo600 wrote:
If the Atmel toolchain "improvements" , finds it way into the FreeBSD repos , then yes.
It seems a bit like it is going to function this way.
Atmel toolchain "improvements" from (Atmel AS) is being merged into the upstream avr-gcc
Eric/SprinterSB and others are doing lots of other fixes to upstream.
Then ...
1: Eric does WinAVR , based on upstream & "maybe other magic"
3: Eric & Jörg coordinates
4: Jöorg does FreeBSD
5: I do FreeBSD -> avr-freaks buildscript
So Atmel/Eric/Jörg/SprinterSB does all the hard work
I just make it build on linux
/Bingo
But I thought that WinAvr was dead (hasn't been a new build in over a year) and that Atmel's tool set was the replacement. |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 06:17 PM |
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But I thought that WinAvr was dead (hasn't been a new build in over a year) and that Atmel's tool set was the replacement.
You haven't been reading closely enough. Eric has already said there'll be a new WinAVR and it's looking like being based on 4.6.1 with SprinterSB back-porting some of the best fixes from 4.7 to that version.
AVR Toolchain is a half-arsed attempt by an Atmel off-shore team to try and replicate WinAVR - they failed miserably. There's serious faults like large flash devices not having ELPM in their .data loop and so on. It also misses many of the "goodies" that make WinAVR such a complete package. In no way can it be considered a "replacement" for WinAVR.
Most of us stick with WinAVR20100110 and look forward to WinAVR2011xxxx (or perhaps WinAVR2012xxxx?) |
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