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 Posted: Dec 15, 2007 - 02:58 AM |
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| i've been checking the tutorial for a while, and the attached links and i can't find a pcb. anyone care to spare one? thanks! |
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Posted: Dec 17, 2007 - 11:55 PM |
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well, after assembling the pure-wire-resistor version, buffer version, upgraded buffer, I assembled the 3-9-2007 version (330, transistor...)... and it works flawlessly on a desktop computer (as well as all other version). but not the same case on my laptop... I enabled ECP, cable is 15cm flat. tried removing 1K resistors on my target board(should the current be too low) - no help. And I have no other ideas... I have no serial available on my laptop, and I really should be able to program the device via laptop.
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Posted: Dec 18, 2007 - 12:09 AM |
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Sounds more like a OS-problem. WinXP requires a driver that allows direct control of the Parallel Port. I don't have it at hand ... soo do a bit of Googling.
And make sure that the targetAVR has 5V power. The PPPD use that.
Edit: one more thing you should check: what is the HW address of the PP on your laptop ? Depending on the software you use, you need to tell that software where it can "find" the port |
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Posted: Dec 18, 2007 - 12:37 AM |
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hmm... I will look for the driver now. And yes, it's got 5.08V sharp, no problem there.
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Posted: Dec 18, 2007 - 12:57 AM |
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I did some searching on my PC as well, but I can't find it.
Maybe it's sufficient to look up the address of the PP ..... If it's not $378, most likely the prog SW can't find it |
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Posted: Dec 18, 2007 - 06:55 PM |
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hmm, not much of help here, so i'm changing strategy. i'm designing my own programmer around a hc245 chip (the one with Z and bidirectional outputs. I know i won't need bidirectional, but anyway..)..
so, from what i see from Plons' design, reset and miso should be enabled/disabled by gate 2 (pin 4) and mosi, sck and prog, from gate 1.
Is this a requirment? Can i enable all of them from one gate? Or do they need to be enabled/disable in such groups?
Next, i see that reset has three pins driving it, and the clock, two. again, is this is a requirment, or just to use all pins?
I guess the 330R/330p/330R filter is still needed. I'm thinking of adding a bunch of other leds and optocoupling the thing. But, is it ok if i remove Q1? Since it doesn't work as an inverter, and i'll have ltv847s optics before pin 10..
Finally, is the pinout correct:
pins 4/5 - high Z enable. I'll mix them in one pin, so I guess i'll use diode or's.
pin 6 - sck. This uses two pins on the hc244, i'll use one.
pin 7 - mosi. no changes
pin 8 - prog, no changes.
pin 9 - reset. uses 3 pins, i'll use one
pin 10 input, uses a bc547 transistor for (supposedly?) buffering, i'll use the optocoupler instead.
also, pins 2 and 3 link to pins 11 and 12 through 330 ohms resistances. are they required?
Again, i'll use hc245 ics for this since i have some on hand.
Thanks!
edit: oh, hi there Plons, i see you're still posting  |
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Posted: Dec 19, 2007 - 04:14 PM |
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Plons wrote:
I did some searching on my PC as well, but I can't find it.
Maybe it's sufficient to look up the address of the PP ..... If it's not $378, most likely the prog SW can't find it
hi... I tried the giveio, allowio, porttalk, userport... no luck with any.
Tried changing port addresses in BIOS, and accordingly changing pony settings - no luck.
Measured voltage levels - 3.4 to 5.0 V, and 0. Changing when invoking probe or read...
I am getting really frustrated here already 5 days and no luck, all being my laptop playing smartass -.-
note: I tried on a desktop workstation of friends today again - the programmer works flawlessly
any ideas ANYONE?
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Posted: Dec 19, 2007 - 04:30 PM |
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Location: (using avr-gcc in) Finchingfield, Essex, England
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lycanthrope wrote:
any ideas ANYONE?
The five days lost work has got to be worth more than the $34 an AVRISPmkII would have cost (IMHO!) |
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Posted: Dec 19, 2007 - 04:41 PM |
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| izuael wrote:
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hmm, not much of help here, so i'm changing strategy. i'm designing my own programmer around a hc245 chip (the one with Z and bidirectional outputs. I know i won't need bidirectional, but anyway..)..
Plenty help ! And there are several designs posted. I am still using the old breadboard-version.
Re-designing ? Why ? Is a 245 better for this purpose in your opinion ?
lycanthrope, I understand the frustration. Since the programmer works fine on a desktop, it is something laptop-specific. But you sorted that out already.
Three options:
1. Download and install BascomAVR demo version. Webaddress and so on my website.
That installs the proper IO-driver for use with the STK200 and alikes.
2. Be smarter 
Use the PPPD to program a Mega8, and build a USB-programmer:
http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/ or
http://w3.ele.tue.nl/nl/ewinkel/studenten/knowledge_base/atmel_programmeren/
PM me if you need the files: I found those in my search for the IO-driver 
3. Get yourself a Butterfly, and install Dean's Buttload on it (search Academy section for Buttload). It works on a serial port, and if necessary you can adapt it to USB with a FTDI232R. Info on my website as well
Nard |
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Posted: Dec 19, 2007 - 05:12 PM |
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@clawson: I agree, that way I would be merrily programming for 5 days already, but I simply find it more fun to do everything from scratch, both a learning and enjoyable experience...
@plons: I'll give bascom a try now, but I will make the usb programmer nontheless thanks! |
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Posted: Dec 21, 2007 - 12:34 AM |
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@plons: was that a great idea or what? ) Bascom didn't work though, but USB programmer works flawlessly
a biiiig thanks once again! |
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Posted: Dec 21, 2007 - 12:47 AM |
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... but USB programmer works flawlessly
You're welcome. Glad you got the USB-programmer working 
And thanks for letting this know.
Nard
PS My dear fellow freaks: these are the guys we're doing it for |
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Posted: Feb 06, 2008 - 12:08 AM |
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| Good news: see the first post in this thread ! Kanda released the latest software for these PPPD's as free download. |
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Posted: Nov 22, 2008 - 08:03 PM |
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| I need help! I've plugged the header from the programmer in the wrong STK200 male-header and now I can't connect to the starter kit.What could be the problem? Has the 74HC244 been burned? |
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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 09:59 PM |
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Posted: Aug 09, 2010 - 10:51 AM |
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Hi dude
It's my design and i think that may usefull for you.
NOTE: Program that use for design schematic & board is Altium Designer Summer 08 (Build 7.0.0.13815). I add PDF & PNG file for user of other program like Eagle.
More information on page of project:
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