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 Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:46 AM |
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You know, it is really disconcerting to do a swap on a uint8 which reads 35 in the Locals view window and have it become 50, only to realize that it is displaying in bloody decimal!
Now, I have looked and looked and looked for a way to change the display format to hex or binary. Just by accident, I discovered that command-click brings up a contextual menu with the option for hex display.
Well, bugger the fact that it changes everything, not just the line you clicked. But, on top of that, there is no option for binary!
So, how can you view binary? Any hope for some lines decimal, some hex, and some binary? Or, will I have more success with a pint of the best local brew?
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:53 AM |
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The brew, and I will join you, just as soon as I am allowed to do that again.  |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 10:13 AM |
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So, how can you view binary? Any hope for some lines decimal, some hex, and some binary? Or, will I have more success with a pint of the best local brew?
I've added an Improvement request into our internal bugtracker, AVRSV-3637 for further reference |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 10:55 AM |
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I thought you just right clicked and said "view as hex" on the context menu - certainly the case in the generic VS2010.
EDIT: yes it's there, see picture... |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 11:32 AM |
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| Yes, but this is not on a per-line basis |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 11:43 AM |
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You sure about that? I just tried it and switching it (actually quite annoyingly) switches the display of everything. I'd actually like it be able to set different interpretations per item myself.
(oh and it appears to be "sticky" from one debug session to the next). |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 12:41 PM |
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I would go look in the Visual Studio documentation (i.e. somewhere in MSDN from Microsoft). For items in the watch window you can (or at least you could) specify how the item should be displayed by adding a specifier to the item (e.g. the name of the variable was followed by a comma and a character specifying format and stuff). This works in the watch window, so you'd have to add to that window rather than looking in locals.
Not sure if it did binary, though...
I do not have the specific documentation on this handy right now, and I have other stuff in the pipe. Come back if you could not find it and I'll have a go at locating it tonight. (And, IIRC it has even been discussed here at 'freaks before).
And Jim, the hex to binary converter is right on the top of your shoulders.. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 01:24 PM |
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clawson wrote:
You sure about that? I just tried it and switching it (actually quite annoyingly) switches the display of everything. I'd actually like it be able to set different interpretations per item myself.
(oh and it appears to be "sticky" from one debug session to the next).
This is in the watch window i presume? Jim talked about the locals/autos window |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 01:29 PM |
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OK, I had a look. And Atmel seems to have screwed this up..
1) The documentation on how to do this in Visual Studio is e.g. here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/75w45ekt
2) Trying out a uint8_t variable b in Atmel Studio 6 (1863), and trying to display it as "b,x" in Atmel Studio you get this info about what is being watched: "unsigned long" and the value displayed (always zero?) does not reflect the value of the variable. Specifying ",o" for octal seems to work though (almost as good as hex - just as easy to convert to binary in your carbon-based converter).
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 03:41 PM |
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This is in the watch window i presume? Jim talked about the locals/autos window
You are telling me the different windows that dio the same operate differently?
EDIT: no you are wrong. The locals window operates exactly the same was the watch window and what's more the same "Hexadecimal display" option applies to both and is sticky. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 04:04 PM |
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clawson wrote:
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This is in the watch window i presume? Jim talked about the locals/autos window
You are telling me the different windows that dio the same operate differently?
EDIT: no you are wrong. The locals window operates exactly the same was the watch window and what's more the same "Hexadecimal display" option applies to both and is sticky.
No, they should do the same. When I change to hex display, all variables are shown in hex. As I read the question, Jim wanted to change this on a per-line basis |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 05:24 PM |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 05:39 PM |
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JohanEkdahl wrote:
OK, I had a look. And Atmel seems to have screwed this up..
Specifying ",o" for octal seems to work though (almost as good as hex - just as easy to convert to binary in your carbon-based converter).
HTH!
Specifying ,b displays in binary, at least it does on my Win7 machine. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:04 PM |
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Windows version sould not have anything to do with this. I tried a few different format specifiers and you can see the result below. I also attached a screen shot of what it looks like when you use the context menu to shift to hexadecimal.
Results:
- The hex format specifier does not work
- The binary format specifier does not work
- The octal format specifier works
- The "Hexadecimal display" alternative in the context menu affects all items but those that have working format specifiers (i.e. octal). |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:15 PM |
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| Hmm? |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:17 PM |
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| My Atmel Studio is build 1863. What's yours, Larry? |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:22 PM |
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| The same, Johan. It's weird that we are not getting the same results. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 06:39 PM |
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| If you have a small test project/solution, can you attach a ZIP of it here? I have attached mine below.. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 07:05 PM |
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larryvc wrote:
I have read it. I'll look through the threads when I get into office on monday and make some bugzez |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 08:23 PM |
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Never having used "Visual Studio" (my visual desktop programming environment is RealBasic), this is totally new to me. So, thanks for the hints. I'll give it a try.
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