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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2012 - 11:58 PM
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Please note: No personal opinions, just the standards references. Smile

I'm looking for the ISO or AS or AS/NZS standard for printed circuit assemblies, I'm sure there is one around but searching on the standards Australia website is just about useless.

In particular I'm after the paragraph(s) where it specifies minimum clearance between components.

I have been working with an older document for many years (before SMD??) and just need to check a couple of things.

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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2012 - 01:06 AM
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I think the IPC standards are more applicable in this instance.
 
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js wrote:
... specifies minimum clearance between components.


Here is a link: pcbget.ru/Files/Standarts/IPC_7351.pdf

Look for "Courtyard Manufacturing Zone".

Not a standard, but you may find this useful:
www.frontdoor.biz/HowToPCB/HowToPCB-extra/CADlib.pdf
 
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A link to a Russian website? Shocked Smile

IPC-7351 seems to discuss land patterns rather than what I need to know, minimum spacing between components.

I'm sure there is a AS/NZS covering this but can't get the correct search terms it seems.

As stated above I need a defintion from a recognised standard, all the better if AS/NZS.

I think I may have a page or 2 from that standard somewhere, if I can find I should be able to get the standard number.

By the way the document I have worked with up to now specifies a minimum 0.5mm spacing spacing between components, but as I said it's pretty old now.

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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2012 - 05:54 AM
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Found the pages and they are from IPC-A-610A Embarassed which seems to be superseded by rev D??

It seems the word I should use is clearance rather than spacing but the above document doesn't seem to address that, everything else but. Confused

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searched:
"IPC component clearance"

http://sprg.ssl.berkeley.edu/sprite/sharris/IPC/IPC-2221A%28L%29.pdf
this one is very interesting

and the revision is even at E at the moment:

http://www.ipc.org/4.0_Knowledge/4.1_Standards/IPC-A-610E-redline-April-2010.pdf

searching this gives a lot of information, but also note that even though you use the IPC rules a manufactureer may still not be able to produce the board, so make sure to also have a chat with the assembly house, they could even just say "we comply with IPC rule this and that" and then you also know where to look....

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Must be going blind Laughing can't see a definitive answer.

I guess the electrical clearance is the one to consider. SMD components have pretty much bare metal leads.

A TH component like a resistor which has a coating all along the body may need a different miminum spacing\clearance.

Never had any issues with boards assembly myself and will keep on using my old reference I guess. It has worked well but it seems very conservative.

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The things we see most are that were hand soldered components meet SMD components the factory requests a minimum spacing.
for SMD to SMD we have never received any change requests.
For your info we have a 10mil component spacing rule.
Also note that when reworking you want to have some space to put tweezers in that will probably be the most important rule for yourself.

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js wrote:
Must be going blind Laughing can't see a definitive answer.


@js

It has been known for years ...

It's 42

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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2012 - 11:23 PM
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we have a 10mil component spacing rule.
That's about 0.25mm while the document I have worked with states 0.5mm (~0.2mil).

But then again that document specified miminum 12mil tracks while 10,8 or smaller are common nowdays.

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