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 Posted: May 22, 2012 - 06:18 AM |
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hi I would like to know who's currently joining this forum and working in Atmel... 
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 07:19 AM |
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A bunch of spammers are joining the forum. Why do you want to know who is working for Atmel?  |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 08:11 AM |
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| I do work for Atmel but don't get any money, does it count? |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 08:52 AM |
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Stay around long enough - read many posts. Then you can start guessing..
AFAIK there has never been posted a listing such as the one you ask for. (It does not make much sense, IMO.) We do know that some of them are actively posting here. I would also suspect that several more are quietly listening. |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 09:25 AM |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 11:36 AM |
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Yes, there are a LOT of Atmel people who browse here (myself included) but not all of them join in. The prevailing wisdom that I've seen is that 'Freaks are too openly hostile to employees, so they try to keep themselves hidden for the most part and just read rather than post.
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 01:26 PM |
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The prevailing wisdom that I've seen is that 'Freaks are too openly hostile to employees
In general, I would not say that freaks are hostile towards employees. If you had said negative or disappointed towards descisions made at Atmel, I would agree.
Yes, there might have been occasional flaming of specific Atmel employees here. If so, those occasions have been rare.
Nevertheless, I can easily see a generic problem if Atmel developers would have to, more or less personally, defend descisions taken at Atmel. So even if we swore a holy oath to unconditionally love them as persons they might be wise to lurk.
(If they have such close loyalties to their employer that they are personally hurt if some freak thinks a specific descision by Atmel is stupid then they should consider switching to another job. If the employer actually is the descision maker then they should be abe to take the heat, as long as it is not plain impolite or offending.)
It seems to me that the Atmel employees that have actually taken part in discussions fall mainly into two categories:
a) Bosses on one level or the other, or people with some specific descision making authority
b) Dean Camera
Again, apart from the odd personal attack / impolite flame, I think most of the flaming have been questioning descisions. If all Atmel needs is a bunch of yes-sayers and hangarounds then AVRfreaks becomes meaningless. IMO. |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 01:44 PM |
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(If they have such close loyalties to their employer that they are personally hurt if some freak thinks a specific descision by Atmel is stupid then they should consider switching to another job.
I don't know I used to be as dedicated to my employer of 25+ years and would defend anything negative said against the company but maybe that's because I had the power to influence company direction and "stupid decisions" could well have been mine in the first place
I wouldn't back away from a forum where our customers might give negative feedback to the company attitude though. |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 03:01 PM |
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JohanEkdahl wrote:
It seems to me that the Atmel employees that have actually taken part in discussions fall mainly into two categories:
a) Bosses on one level or the other, or people with some specific decision making authority
b) Dean Camera
Hmm. So where does that leave me?  |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 03:02 PM |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 03:37 PM |
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Hmm. So where does that leave me?
So you fall outside of the "mainly"..
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Marketing Manager
You're obviously a manager, which I think means either boss or descision maker or both. OTOH, marketing should place you very close to the lawyers, right. Hey, even the web-designers comes out better... |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 04:09 PM |
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Hmm. So where does that leave me?
See your avatar--the Invisible Man... |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 04:24 PM |
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I've always seen it as "empty head".  |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 04:37 PM |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 05:41 PM |
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abcminiuser wrote:
Yes, there are a LOT of Atmel people who browse here (myself included) but not all of them join in. The prevailing wisdom that I've seen is that 'Freaks are too openly hostile to employees, so they try to keep themselves hidden for the most part and just read rather than post.
- Dean
I think some of us regular posters here don't really have a clue about how sensitive most people are about these things. We, the prolific, have tough hides and the crap just bounces off. Most people though take the insulting behavior as personally as if the insulter was standing right in front of them.
I personally don't get this attitude since I understand that some mental-cases use the Internet like a first person shooter video game and delight in being able to insult people without getting punched out.
I know a bunch of local folks all of whom would benefit from asking questions here and none of whom will risk it after being slammed for violating some rule that they weren't aware of, or asking a question and told they have lousy google-fu or should read the data sheet or whatever no so subtle putdown that says: 'yer an idiot go away'.
AVRFreaks may be getting better but I'm still seeing rude and insulting behavior going unmoderated so I have little hope that we'll ever be known as a safe and friendly place to ask questions. We might think that the Atmel employees should grow a pair and be more active here, but frankly - if I were an Atmel employee I'd stay away from the place for fear that I might accidentally get involved in something that would blow back on my job. Why take the risk knowing that you'll mainly receive insults as the payoff?
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 05:47 PM |
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none of whom will risk it after being slammed for violating some rule that they weren't aware of,
What rules do you mean?
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but I'm still seeing rude and insulting behavior going unmoderated so I have little hope that we'll ever be known as a safe and friendly place to ask questions
If anyone sees this PM the moderators - we try to read everything but sometimes such threads go un-noticed (personally I have several topics that, if I see it in the thread title I'm tempeted to skip reading the thread). Once or twice in a moment of boredom I've dipped into such threads only to then find it was a troll-fest from some of our less well behaved contributors.
While a lot of people got the "be more friendly" message I've seen a few posts in recent weeks from people I think should know better posting banal drivel but I guess they missed all the previous discussion about keeping threads on topic and just trying to be pleasant and helpful? While I could "bang on" about it each time the message just starts to sound like an old, scratchy record that people then ignore. |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 09:49 PM |
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I should edit that from 'rules' to 'unwritten rules' or prehaps 'written but hard to find or guess at by a newbie rules'. Things such as which forum to post in, don't use CAPS or !!!! or ask for homework help (and why the Hell not?) and FOR GODS SAKE don't ask a question that in the opinion of a local guru you could have found on Goggle if you had the brains of a goat. Those sorts of rules.
Oh, and I did report a rude SOB to one of the moderators who told me he rather enjoyed the fellows sense of humor. This was before the Atmel edict to cool things down, so maybe I'll get in the tattler mode again and see how it works now.
I guess if I'm going to bitch, I ought to volunteer to moderate. I've considered it in the past, but frankly I consider myself a bit too volatile to handle the responsibility. Also it might make me too tame and I'm already feeling a bit too domesticated. I haven't pooped in a thread for months.
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 09:50 PM |
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| Smiley wrote:
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AVRFreaks may be getting better but I'm still seeing rude and insulting behavior etc.
IMO the attitude has improved a lot in the past few months, not just "may be getting better". I see nothing wrong in a rude response getting corrected by fellow members: if that does not lead to improvement of the "rudy"s attitude, you can always PM a moderator.
Let's not overshoot in the friendly approach. Think of fuzzy logic.
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 10:48 PM |
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I don't work for Atmel. They know better to hire a rude and insulting brat like me |
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Posted: May 22, 2012 - 10:51 PM |
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| The unfulfilled potential of the AVRfreaks forum was that it could have been a quickstart avr programmer help 'experiment' if the ideas of the tutors could have been implemented on the forum. Seems like there are lots of entry level sites now ten years later with really good stuff on them. I like Rugged circuits, the sparkfun tutorials, some maker stuff. Think we should have an arduino forum? Who better to tell arduino new guys how to compile c programs for unos than us old embedded engineers? How about Eric W tell us when the number of AVRs sold to Arduino in Italy exceeds the number of AVRs sold to Sirius and XM for their radio bezels. |
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