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Plons
PostPosted: Jan 19, 2012 - 03:55 PM
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Guys,

I designed a set SOIC-adapters for use on proto boards (like Vero-board) and would like your feedback on these.
Here is the webpage: http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm

I am not commercially attached to elecfreaks.com but cooperate with them on these (FYI: it started with the FlowerPads; new developments are in testphase and will be evaluated soon)

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Nard - I think that's an excellent alternative to the standard breakout boards that take up tons of board space. Nice idea!

edit: It seems like you could pretty easily drop a footprint for a 2 row header on there as well. So that you could install the breakout board horizontally or vertically, based on space constraints.
 
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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2012 - 05:11 PM
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nleahcim wrote:
It seems like you could pretty easily drop a footprint for a 2 row header on there as well. So that you could install the breakout board horizontally or vertically, based on space constraints.

Would be nice. Trying to think of a way to do that without a short between pads at both sides of the board. I'll give it some more thought.




edit: added picture

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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:36 AM
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Hi Nard,

Nice design.

I can recall some small UHF transmitter and transceiver modules that were small circuit boards with pins sticking out of the edge, so that the boards were perpendicular to the main PCB.

I think I had some Basic Stamp II modules in a similar format.

Nice Job!

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I can recall some small UHF transmitter and transceiver modules that were small circuit boards with pins sticking out of the edge, so that the boards were perpendicular to the main PCB.


I bought a pile of them from Sparkfun, and from another company for around $1.95 each.

315-433mhz bands. 4800bps. Work pretty good.

Nard,
What is the purpose of the row on the top of the board with the gap from it to the pins? Decoupling? I like the idea of going vertical to save board space. For me, I would solder a dual row right angle pins to solder the unit to a protoboard as the height could be an issue during a field test.

I like the idea. I WANT some!!!!!

Are these going to be available soon?

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What is the purpose of the row on the top of the board with the gap from it to the pins? Decoupling?


Those are power-bars, Jim. And two decoupling caps are on the other side.
It is on the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm
See attached snapshot. It's too easy to miss. Will fix that.

I will ponder over the flatmount.

Elecfreaks will do a testrun on the SOIC32Wide, the vertical mount and the flat version I posted earlier here: http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 092#908092
Most Chinese factories are closed now (NewYear) but I expect them to be available in less than 2 weeks.

Thanks guys, for the feedback

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Two more questions....

1) Are you taking pre-release orders?

2) How much will the limited edition signed "NardPaks" cost? Wink

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Nard,

nice design,
I miss 1 board though, that is the vertical to horizontal converter.
It is very straigth forward, but then you can really convert an SOIC to a DIP and use it on a bread board...

I also like answers on the questions Jim asked.....
I have some SOIC chips that I would like to use on a bread board Smile

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jgmdesign wrote:
Two more questions....

1) Are you taking pre-release orders?

2) How much will the limited edition signed "NardPaks" cost? Wink

Jim

1. I will ask elecfreaks.com
I don't run a business, they do. We "just" cooperate
2. The adapters may carry the name Aplomb-boards: that's my domain and means "perpendicular" in French
I don't know the price. Will ask.

Btw, I updated the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm

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Nard,

nice design,
I miss 1 board though, that is the vertical to horizontal converter.
It is very straigth forward, but then you can really convert an SOIC to a DIP and use it on a bread board...

I also like answers on the questions Jim asked.....
I have some SOIC chips that I would like to use on a bread board Smile


I added a strip, see the bottom of the webpage. Is that what you mean ?

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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:17 PM
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For the flatmount: is a header like this an option ?
I am still looking for a better solution.

Edit: proposal posted @ bottom of http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm

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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:10 PM
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SOIC adapter price will be $ 1.50
Due to Chinese Newyear (factory closed to Jan31) and shipping (7 days Hongkong Post): a month from now to get the adapter on your desk. But this leadtime also means that improvements can be implemented BEFORE the first run. So keep suggestions coming and keep an eye on the webpage http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm as I will keep updating.

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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 07:07 PM
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Suggestion:

A double-stacked adapter where you can solder a TQFP on one, solder headers that route half the pins to a second board sitting on top as a sandwich, and plug the whole thing in your prototype board.

I can do a rough layout for you if you like, for FREE! (will accept demo board and adapters as reward... Smile
 
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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 08:49 PM
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I am not in control of demo boards and adapters.
But feel free to send your design to services@elecfreaks.com
( Checkout their website at http://www.elecfreaks.com )

Nard

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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2012 - 10:12 PM
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Guys,

How about the variant as attached in case you need a flatmount ?

More info here: http://www.aplomb.nl/TechStuff/SOIC_adapters/SOIC.htm
Scroll down to the end

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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2012 - 02:45 AM
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Not a bad idea!

Jim

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Today I received the samples of the Aplomb*) SOIC32W adapter and put a AT90PWM3B-16SU on for the test. Pictures are a bit dark, but I freaked**) the adapters so there was no second chance for a picture of a normal used SOIC32W adapter Wink
As compensation I will also post the freaked*) version on my webpage about the Aplomb adapters

What also came in is the testrun of an improved FlowerPad design with a SOIC32W on it: that is discussed here: http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 308#928308

*) Aplomb means perpendicular in French. So a proper name IMO. No, it's not coincidental: it is my domain name too.
**) freaking means here: use something in a different manner than it's supposed to be. So hacking in fact, as in HackAday. But the word "hacking" is also used for illegal actions; therefore my choice for "freaking"
I tweaked in some decoupling capacitors and a crystal. I will update my webpage about the Aplomb adapters soon.

The breadboard adapter strip (another new product) is being manufactured now and may even be on it's way to my house. I expect them soon. Then I will put it on a breadboard and make it PWM a bit Wink And will post a picture of course.


I don't run a business and am not in control of samples: contact services@elecfreaks.com for a sample request or an order. Their website is http://www.elecfreaks.com
It's great to cooperate with these guys: we have a good understanding, in spite of the double language barrier. And they are willing to invest in development of products we want and need. So your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

Nard

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*) Aplomb means perpendicular in French. So a proper name IMO. No, it's not coincidental: it is my domain name too.
**) freaking means here: use something in a different manner than it's supposed to be. So hacking in fact, as in HackAday. But the word "hacking" is also used for illegal actions; therefore my choice for "freaking"


Sorry to burst the bubble my friend but "Aplomb" actually means stability in french, or inner strength, self-confidence, etc... "À plomb" really means straight vertical, coming from the old construction tools where you would suspend a lead bearing from the second story of a building to get a reference vertical level.

Also Freaking (or phreaking) was illegal before the term "hacking" was coined... Wink
 
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French is not my native language so I relied on the dictionary. What do you think ? Is it a proper name ?
Did you grow up with both French and English ?

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Also Freaking (or phreaking) was illegal before the term "hacking" was coined... Wink
We are here amongst fellow freaks. Not fellow-hackers Wink

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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2012 - 09:04 PM
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Hey Nard,
After looking at teh board I am assuming that you are sticking to the concept of the device only being used on vero.vector board only. That adapter won't work on a breadboard unfortunately

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Plons wrote:
French is not my native language so I relied on the dictionary. What do you think ? Is it a proper name ?
Did you grow up with both French and English ?


My primary language is French... Sure it's not a bad name, just doesn't mean what you thought it does. Smile
 
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