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 Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 05:54 PM |
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| Good point. Ditto for file indexing. |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 08:39 PM |
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JohanEkdahl wrote:
Not intrinsic thing to display open files?
I've forgotten how to do this on VMS. Do you recall? |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 10:15 PM |
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Location: Chicago area, USA
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cpluscon wrote:
JohanEkdahl wrote:
Not intrinsic thing to display open files?
I've forgotten how to do this on VMS. Do you recall?
show device /files ? |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 10:42 PM |
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Location: Lund, Sweden
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Oh stop it now. I'm starting to sob. The nostaghia...
One game we used to play was "Type your code correct the first and only time". A small "assignment" was put up. everyone gets to think for a while and then
Code:
$ PASCAL /INPUT=SYS$INPUT /OUTPUT=SOLUTION.OBJ
PROGRAM Solution
VAR
i : Integer;
str : PACKED ARRAY [1..20] OF Character;
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<rest of program source>
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END.
[ctrl-Z]
$ LINK SOLUTION
$ RUN SOLUTION
<And here the EXE should perform as per the assignment>
So you'd have to type the program in correctly in one go (you could edit while on a row by DELeting characters and retype, but once you hit enter that was a point of no return for that line).
A lot of fun! (For those not fluent in DCL the above makes little sense, yes)
And I once played a aprils-fools-joke on our students by adding the new (sub-)command
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SET WEATHER [/SUNNY] [/CLOUDY] [/TEMPERATURE=n] [/GIRLS_IN_THIN_T_SHIRTS] [/BOYS_IN_TIGHT_BERMUDAS] etc
to the help on our VAX 11/785 systems help. Every option was documented in the standard "stiff" DEC style, with dry comments about the possible failure of /GIRLS n /BOYS options if the system missed the something-hardware, and the danger of all hell breaking loose if the temperature was set to above 800 degrees Celsius, etc..
And I suppose those of you that ran or used VMS systems recall the file with changed error message definitions where eg "Quota Exceeded" was changed to "Byte the bag quota".
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 11:14 PM |
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Getting low on disk space?
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purge [...]*.*;
Or something like that. Who needs configuration management when you have file versions! |
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 - 11:15 PM |
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Location: Hemel Hemsptead, UK
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Of error messages, who knows where this message is to be found?
Quote:
An obscure error of the fifth kind has occurred.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2008 - 05:28 PM |
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For Win2k there is a tool called OH.EXE that lists open files as well as other object types.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... _setup.exe
Haven't yet looked but this may be available for XP/Vista. Note that the utility is part of the Win2k Resource Kit.
Edit: oh.exe worked under XP Pro, for me, but not under Vista. |
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 - 07:59 PM |
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Location: (using avr-gcc in) Finchingfield, Essex, England
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Oh stop it now. I'm starting to sob. The nostaghia..
Johan,
Just bumping an old thread (and I'm sure there was another one where you talked more extensively about VAX/VMS nostalgia) but I thought you might be interested in this use for a Raspberry Pi (well two of them in fact):
http://www.designspark.com/content/rasp ... ax-cluster
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 - 08:04 PM |
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| Wow. Talk about memories from the past. That is really cool. |
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 - 10:07 PM |
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Location: Lund, Sweden
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Cliff!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you...!
This really tempting. In the store in the basement I have had, for the last 18 years or so, a Tandberg terminal that in essence is a VT220 (black on "paper white" to boot) that I just have not been able to get rid of. Have to pick it up this summer and see if it still starts (it has firmware in EEPROM thet might not have retained it's contents, electrolytics might have gone dry etc. Prolly will power it up outside first time...
But if it works, how cool just to have a VMS system up. Oh the joy of a non-cryptic command-line language, a nice Pascal compiler, and a file system with versions!
Cliff, did I say "thank you!"?
[EDIT: Straightened out some name confusion..] |
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Posted: Jun 14, 2012 - 12:57 AM |
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| I still have my ADM-3A in the workshop. |
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