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 Posted: May 23, 2012 - 05:54 AM |
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SpaceX launched to orbit their cargo shuttle to/from the Space Station - this week. Congratulations.
It was curious to hear NASA's PR weenie interviewing SpaceX people... paraphrasing:
NASA: How did SpaceX troubleshoot the cause of the aborted launch so quickly?
SpaceX: Well, our engineers actually work on the system, so they didn't have to consult numerous contractors and subcontractors. [NASA snark not subtle]
NASA interviewing NASA Program Manager liason to SpaceX... "What are some of the big differences you see in how SpaceX does things versus NASA?"
NASA PM: "We're impressed that they use mostly electronic documents rather than the paper we're used to."
The commercialization of space travel will be quite interesting. To be fair, The Royals' funding to Columbus for his voyages was probably huge by standards of the day. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 03:29 PM |
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| Quite excited here about SpaceX. Go guys! |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 04:48 PM |
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stevech wrote:
NASA interviewing NASA Program Manager liason to SpaceX... "What are some of the big differences you see in how SpaceX does things versus NASA?"
NASA PM: "We're impressed that they use mostly electronic documents rather than the paper we're used to."
NASA used to be years ahead of the curve. That reply is sad to read and indicates that the NASA "Right Stuff Culture" has seriously eroded. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:19 PM |
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All government programs no matter how noble their beginnings, quickly become ways to spread patronage around among the states. With jobs spread in enough districts, then the program becomes untouchable and it continues to exist and even grow long past any real need or it.
NASA ceased relevancy at almost exactly the time the Space Shuttle was proposed. How much money did we spend to fry that school teacher? And who even asked what the Hell were we doing sending a school teacher into orbit? Senator John Glenn gets a ride to test the effects of space flights on the elderly? How many High School fruit fly experiments really need to be launched and at what cost?
The Republicans won't touch it because it funds a lot of rich folks that own the contracting companies. Democrats won't touch it because a lot of the work is unionized.
It is a perfect parasite.
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:25 PM |
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| Can someone remind me why people that get paid by the taxpayers have to be in a union? Is the government an unfair employer? Bad work environment? Not enough perks? I thought unions were for workplace safety. Unions are great protecting their workers from evil capitalists. They shouldn't be needed for civil servants. |
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 08:55 PM |
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| I see now their "Dragon" has successfully docked with the ISS. |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 12:29 AM |
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| There are 2 things wrong with that grappling/docking video: it's not from 2001 and it's not in the orbit of Jupiter. |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 12:58 AM |
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I think it is because we are using a Russian clock to keep time that we are so far behind in our endeavours. 
Oh, wait, it was the Russians that saved the day in 2010. 
Congratulations to SpaceX. |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 01:39 AM |
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| SpaceX got it right first try! |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 04:18 AM |
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| Elon Musk can make a company that makes a rocket and a capsule that work great, but cant get an electric car into mass production? |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 04:44 AM |
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| Maybe the "oil interests" don't have any in space. |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 - 05:39 AM |
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bobgardner wrote:
Elon Musk ... cant get an electric car into mass production?
"Real soon now"
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options
Price is significantly greater than a Chevrolet Volt or Nissan Leaf.
IIRC, saw an electric car recharger at a nearby Cracker Barrel restaurant. |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 01:11 PM |
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svofski wrote:
There are 2 things wrong with that grappling/docking video: it's not from 2001 and it's not in the orbit of Jupiter.
Give us time! Clarke just didn't figure we'd abandon space travel for 40 years. |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 03:10 PM |
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| It took bravery to sail west over the horizon in 1492, but at least they didnt need pressure suits and breathing apparatus. So far we havent been able to live in a closed environment in the Arizona desert or on the sea floor without constant replenishment. Taking off for Mars for a decade would take a real tough dude. |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 03:41 PM |
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bobgardner wrote:
Taking off for Mars for a decade would take a real tough dude.
Visions of the movie "Avatar" just flashed through my mind. Oh my, I need caffeine. |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 03:51 PM |
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that grappling/docking video
What video?!? What link do I not see? |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 04:32 PM |
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JohanEkdahl wrote:
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that grappling/docking video
What video?!? What link do I not see?
http://tinyurl.com/7zmdycd
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 05:25 PM |
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Very funny Larry.
Since the wording was "that grappling/docking video" I was asking about which specific vide was referred to.
[ , etc ]
EDIT: And since it is obviously OK to be a wise guy here, I will just inform you that the link you so aptly produced does not in its first page of hits produce any video that in any way depicts anything docking with the ISS.
With less ignorance you would not just swallow the erroneous worthing on all those sites your search produces, but would instead of sticking that ugly Bing into my face gently inform all of us that the video illustrates approach and grappling, but no actual docking. Go AltaVista those words, or stay ignorant..
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 06:59 PM |
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The whole idea of that post was to through Bing in your face. Bing, Silverlight, etc... I have to be proactive with who pays the Bills.
And yes, I only saw the same videos that you did. I wish there was one of the actual docking. Perhaps NASA TV will post it at some future date.
Ignorance is bliss. |
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Posted: May 28, 2012 - 07:30 PM |
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@Jesper: sorry, I'm subscribed to this channel so I assumed that everybody who's interested in the subject also saw the video. Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTdxIS8J_NI& |
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Posted: May 29, 2012 - 02:49 AM |
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Torby wrote:
Clarke just didn't figure we'd abandon space travel for 40 years.
Sorry, but I feel the need to rant.
Although manned space exploration gets the most attention, the unmanned side is way, *way* more important for our knowledge of planetary and space sciences. In the 40 years since Apollo, we have had amazing successes with Solar System exploration. Our Mars work included the pioneering Viking program, and continued with the more recent Mars Pathfinder, Global Surveyor, Climate Orbiter and other orbiters + landers. We've sent dozens of craft to Venus - some of them even survived for about an hour on the surface, although their lens caps are a different story. We've orbited Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. The Cassini orbiter is on its way to Saturn, while New Horizons is on its way to Pluto. Asteroid and comet samples were collected and successfully returned to Earth. On top of all of that, the Voyager probes will enter *interstellar space* in about 2 years.
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Posted: May 29, 2012 - 03:12 AM |
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| communicating with Voyager is a splendid example of the RF communications propagation loss inverse square law in action! |
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Posted: May 29, 2012 - 09:00 AM |
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larryvc wrote:
I have to be proactive with who pays the Bills.
Oh don't tell me there is more than one of him. |
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