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Koshchi
PostPosted: Feb 21, 2012 - 03:20 AM
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While I do believe we have yet to unlock some secrets of the universe, I doubt some guys "secret magic sauce" will be it.
I thought that Burger King had a corner on the market for secret sauces anyways (or was that McDonald's?).

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As for the copper, Occam's Razor suggests that contamination or sloppy experimental procedures are more likely than nuclear transmutation.


We can make a stronger statement on the copper. Nuclear reactions produce copper isotopes in very precise ratios. There are reports an independent team tested samples of the copper output, and instead of getting an isotope ratio characteristic of a nuclear reaction, they got a ratio that matches naturally occurring copper.

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That would definitely be a strong indicator...

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Is this a great forum or what? Not just mere world class electrical engineers and programmers, but aerodynamicists and physicists too. I've been reading about this on the sci.energy newsgroups, which are much coarser than our sweet little forum here, and the guys that think its snake oil still really want it to work. It would probably be a bigger invention than steam or oil.

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It would certainly be a huge invention, but if wishes were reality Keira would live in an outbuilding in Finchingfield.

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I thought that Burger King had a corner on the market for secret sauces anyways (or was that McDonald's?).


Nah--Wisconsin, USA--Go, Brewers!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Stadium_Sauce

But indeed, you might be thinking of Big mac "special sauce"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac

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"Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions - all on a sesame seed bun."

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Big MacĀ® Sauce:
Soybean oil, pickle relish [diced pickles, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, vinegar, corn syrup, salt, calcium chloride, xanthan gum, potassium sorbate (preservative),
spice extractives, polysorbate 80], distilled vinegar, water, egg yolks, high fructose corn syrup, onion powder, mustard seed, salt, spices, propylene glycol alginate,
sodium benzoate (preservative), mustard bran, sugar, garlic powder, vegetable protein (hydrolyzed corn, soy and wheat), caramel color, extractives of paprika, soy
lecithin, turmeric (color), calcium disodium EDTA (protect flavor).


Back on topic, the Italians have issued a patent on this thingy. Now, I'm way out of my league here but I thought a patent application had to have enough information for one knowledgeable in the subject area to create/re-create the device.
 
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There's a bunch of dudes on the newsgroups trying to replicate an ecat too. I would also personally pay a nominal admission price to view Kiera Knightley nightly in her nightie.

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theusch wrote:

Back on topic, the Italians have issued a patent on this thingy. Now, I'm way out of my league here but I thought a patent application had to have enough information for one knowledgeable in the subject area to create/re-create the device.


Anyone have a link to the patent in Italy?
 
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crazy patents that never made it
The first two paragraphs say it all.

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Assuming that these things are going to be as common as water heaters pretty soon, maybe Atmel can make an E-Cat controller with an AVR core and whatever IO it takes to turn the H2 valve open and closed etc. Get in on the ground floor and ride it up.

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maybe Atmel can make an E-Cat controller

They could build it around the DB101. There must be a pile of those lying around somewhere. There may also be some guys hanging around on the ground floor waiting to ride them up.

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Anyone have a link to the patent in Italy?


WIPO patent application 2009125444:

http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/en/WO2009125444

The corresponding application at the US PTO is 20110005506:

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Par ... 0110005506

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They could build it around the DB101. There must be a pile of those lying around somewhere.

??? http://store.atmel.com/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:10500052 "Out of stock"
 
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Imagine having wrote a piece of code for that airline seal lethal injection system.

"Oh crap, did I forget to..."

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