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 Posted: Nov 10, 2011 - 11:48 PM |
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| Welcome Firefox 8 (official release). What was the thread's title again? |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 06:28 AM |
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pnp wrote:
Welcome Firefox 8 (official release). What was the thread's title again?
yep installed yesterday evening at home and just now at work.
first post was on sept 27 now is nov 11 so that is 44 days or just over 6 weeks.
I really dont get why they are doing this. the appearance does not seem to change a lot and it does not look that much faster. So why trying to let people go back to or onto a browser that does not update that fast..... |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 09:03 AM |
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Location: St.Petersburg, Russia
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| Clearly, they're trying to make me abandon the extensions I depend on. |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 09:53 AM |
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| Yup, I got the alert but when I said "yeah OK, I give in, install it" it popped up and told me that two of my most used add-ons were not compatible. So I guess I have to wait for the 3rd parties to get their plugins/add-ons up to date (which was also my argument above against this rampant "progress"). |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 02:37 PM |
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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| This is why I said "not now" for 8.0 since it would disable McAfee site advisor on the home PC. This PC at work is on the beta release so it's been on 8.x for awhile now. |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 07:16 PM |
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| Still on 3.6.23 here... all my vital plugins work, i.e. adblock+ and noscript. |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 07:23 PM |
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| Good grief, the machine on the beta subscription just download FF 9.0!! |
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 07:26 PM |
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dksmall wrote:
Good grief, the machine on the beta subscription just download FF 9.0!!
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 - 07:27 PM |
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The thing I want to hang onto is the Freecorder toolbar which allows you to record any sound - especially from, for example, YouTube videos. I have it for both IE and FireFox. When I try to use the one in IE it crashes every Windows application that is running at the time - when I use the Firefox version is works faultlessly. I don't think it's the recorder itself that has the problem  |
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Posted: Nov 12, 2011 - 03:30 AM |
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For the record, I'm rocking the 64-bit nightlies, which is currently the FF11 trunk. I've fixed the addon issue by installing the "Addon Compatibility Reporter" plugin that disables compatibility checks. So far, I haven't had an extension die yet, and I've been moving through all the nightlies since V5.
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Posted: Nov 14, 2011 - 01:10 PM |
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dksmall wrote:
Good grief, the machine on the beta subscription just download FF 9.0!!
Their plan calls for new releases on a fixed schedule every 6 weeks, and each release will have a new major version number, regardless of how major or trivial the changes may be.
If a critical security flaw is discovered mid-way through the 6-week cycle, then they may choose to issue a minor point-release. But that would be the only circumstance in which the six-week schedule would be interrupted.
Mid-term, they plan to entirely eliminate version numbers from all user-facing aspects of the program. There will no longer be "Firefox 4" and "Firefox 8.0.1". There will only be "Firefox", and nobody will be expected to care what version they're running, provided they're always running the newest.
They also hope to stop issuing any notifications that new versions are even available. They just want to silently download new versions in the background, and then the next time you restart the browser or reboot your computer, the latest patch will automatically be installed without needing to ask your permission. (This is the way Google Chrome behaves, for example.) |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2011 - 01:24 PM |
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and nobody will be expected to care what version they're running,
Which is all very well if the 3rd party add-on developers are aware of this and willing to ensure they are always up to date. Being forced to make a release every 6 weeks for that reason could sap an awful lot of their actual development time even just for the repeated regression testing alone! if Mozilla/Firefox could always guarantee backwards API compatibility I guess it wouldn't matter but something they keep changing appears to break things almost every time (though this could just be that add-on X just has a meta file saying "good up to V7" and as soon as V8 appears it assumes it's not compatible when it might well be - they need to sort this out!) |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2011 - 02:40 PM |
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| That's the big issue is the add-on management. My home laptop asked to install 8.0, And I told it not now, knowing the the McAfee siteadvisor wasn't compatible. A few days later I started FF and saw the "please wait while installing updates" dialog, so it updated it anyway and now siteadvisor isn't running! |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 05:06 PM |
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I needed to get some things updated on my Linux machine so just did an "apt-get upgrade" and it went and replaced my trustworthy 3.61 with 9.0.1
Oh great - not! |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 05:27 PM |
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| You're still behind, I'm at 10.0 now. |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 07:00 PM |
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You're still behind
More correctly the Ubuntu Maverick repository is behind (but too far forward for my money!) |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 07:02 PM |
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If it's any consolation, there will be two parallel branches of Firefox development as of today.
Regular users will continue getting punted through the regular 6-week release cycle, with Firefox 10 released today, and Firefox 11 due out on March 13, etc.
Enterprise users (and anybody else who deliberately seeks it out) can opt for "Extended Support Releases" which will remain stable (with only severe security and stability bugfixes) for 54 weeks.
Firefox 10.0.0 and Firefox ESR 10.0.0 are both being released today.
Every six weeks, another new major version of regular Firefox will be released, along with a new point release of Firefox ESR 10.0.x.
On November 20 2012, Firefox ESR 10.0.7 will be released (assuming no extremely time-sensitive exploits in the meantime require out-of-schedule releases), along with the next major version, Firefox ESR 17.0.0. For the following twelve weeks, Firefox ESR 10.0.x and Firefox ESR 17.0.x will be supported in parallel, giving IT managers a 3-month interval to qualify Firefox ESR 17 and make sure they are prepared to use it. Then, Firefox ESR 10.0.8 will be released, marking the final end of support for that product, and Firefox ESR 17.0.2 will take its place as the currently supported version. |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 07:08 PM |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 07:46 PM |
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| Here is my list of handy FF plugins I use: |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 08:33 PM |
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I got the same update thrown at me yesterday, but it picked up everything from my version 3.6... it's kept the layout and such, stuck in adblock+ and noscript, and built a status bar at the bottom without asking, into which it stuck the noscript status (at the wrong side, but that's the only visible change between versions.)
Mint 10, for the record. |
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