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 Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 04:22 PM |
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What does it do for me, a potential XMega developer?
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Jim Wagner
Oregon Research Electronics, Consulting Div.
Tangent, OR, USA
"The only thing standing between us and victory is defeat" P.G.Wodhouse in Wooster & Jeeves series
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Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 08:25 PM |
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ka7ehk wrote:
What does it do for me, a potential XMega developer?
My guess and conclusion is here http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name ... 538#719538
FYI here is the directory structure of the AVR1922 v1 framework:
Code:
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|-- binaries
|-- documentation
| |-- display-demo
| |-- display-training
| |-- uart-loopback
| `-- xplain-bc
|-- graphics
| |-- originals
| | |-- clock
| | |-- icons
| | |-- presentations
| | |-- slideshow
| | `-- tank
| `-- xplain-formatted
|-- source
| |-- apps
| | |-- display-demo
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- app
| | |-- display-training
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- app
| | |-- uart-loopback
| | `-- xplain-bc
| | `-- include
| | `-- app
| |-- arch
| | |-- avr32
| | | |-- include
| | | | `-- arch
| | | `-- string
| | `-- avr8
| | `-- include
| | `-- arch
| |-- board
| | |-- atevk1104
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- board
| | |-- xplain
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- board
| | | `-- touch
| | | `-- resistive
| | `-- xplain-bc
| | `-- include
| | `-- board
| |-- chip
| | |-- at32uc3a3
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- chip
| | |-- at90usb1287
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- chip
| | `-- atxmega128a1
| | `-- include
| | `-- chip
| |-- cpu
| | |-- mega
| | | `-- include
| | | `-- cpu
| | |-- uc3
| | | |-- include
| | | | `-- cpu
| | | `-- string
| | `-- xmega
| | `-- include
| | `-- cpu
| | `-- touch
| | `-- resistive
| |-- doc
| | `-- usb
| |-- drivers
| | |-- block
| | |-- bus
| | |-- clk
| | |-- flash
| | |-- gfx
| | | `-- hx8347a
| | |-- gpio
| | |-- serial
| | | |-- spi
| | | `-- uart
| | |-- tc
| | | `-- timer
| | |-- touch
| | | `-- resistive
| | `-- usb
| | |-- at90usb
| | |-- core
| | `-- udi
| |-- include
| | |-- assembler
| | |-- block
| | |-- bus
| | | `-- ebi
| | | `-- params
| | |-- clk
| | | |-- avr32_pm
| | | `-- xmega
| | |-- compiler
| | |-- flash
| | |-- fs
| | |-- generic
| | |-- gfx
| | | `-- default
| | |-- gpio
| | |-- malloc
| | |-- regs
| | |-- scsi
| | |-- spi
| | |-- tc
| | |-- timer
| | |-- touch
| | |-- uart
| | `-- usb
| |-- make
| `-- util
| |-- fs
| |-- gfx
| |-- stream
| `-- string
`-- tools
|-- bitmap-convert
| `-- dist
|-- rawwrite
| `-- dist
`-- tsfs
`-- mkfs.tsfs
`-- dist
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Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 10:57 PM |
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Location: Sydney, Australia (Gum trees, Koalas and Kangaroos, No Edelweiss)
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I think that the website should have checkboxes so one could select the forums that one has interest in...so I could unchek this one and the 32 bit forums.  It's ending up like the M/chip website. |
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* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 03:41 AM |
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| I'd like to uncheck every category the Great Samperi has indicated, and include the security one too. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 07:23 AM |
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Location: Nantes, France
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To ArnoldB: sounds like you mixed up the ASF with Xplain board software.
ASF is detailled here: http://www.atmel.no/asf/
Just go trough the documentation and you'll see what it can do for you
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 09:34 AM |
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Location: (using avr-gcc in) Finchingfield, Essex, England
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| Just seems to be a bunch of example software - pretty much all the AVR13xx application notes put together in a single .zip - not sure why this merits not just a whole forum but a whole new section? |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 10:47 AM |
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Probably because this ASF forum applies to 8-bit and 32-bit AVR - existing tech forums are stick to one architecture.
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 03:43 PM |
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sma wrote:
To ArnoldB: sounds like you mixed up the ASF with Xplain board software.
No, I was using the Xplain framework to point out obvious similarities.
sma wrote:
ASF is detailled here: http://www.atmel.no/asf/
Just go trough the documentation and you'll see what it can do for you
But you seem to know so much about it, can YOU explain in one simple sentence what it is? Not that marketing bull "what it can do for you". |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 10:15 PM |
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The download doesn't work
hmm i'm pretty it's working for someone who knows how to use a web browser 
http://asf.atmel.no/selector/show.php?d ... ;store=app
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indicates subdirectories very much like those of the Xplain framework.
Got it wrong, the directory structure is similar to the UC3 software framework v1.7.0 (launched a few years ago http://atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_car ... _id=4192), this is v2.0.0 adding XMEGA support.
In a simple sentence, it's a collection of software to get started with AVR: MCU drivers, stacks like USB, TCP/IP, jpeg decoder, memory drivers, file system, so it's kind of easy to start a new application from it.
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Posted: Jul 03, 2010 - 12:55 PM |
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so it's kind of easy to start a new application from it.
I can't be bothered to download but does that mean it's in totally generic C or it's all Asm only or it really does have code variants for all of Codevision, Imagecraft, IAR, GCC, MikroC and Rowley?
I suspect it's only IAR and GCC in which case this should be made clear in the sticky announcement to save other compiler users wasting their time (or beginners getting confused not understanding why their compiler gives a raft of errors) |
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Posted: Jul 03, 2010 - 02:47 PM |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 12:19 PM |
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Oh so it's becoming like the sam7 source tree, where you have no clue what version is suposed to be the most recent one, and you have 43 different downloads to get before you can build an example ?
Oh, and also, you can't really isolate your project and it's dependencies, you have to link the whole pile of garbage and hope nobody changes the lib later on ?
....because of course instead of using something like a git tree, it'll be a nice .zip with no changelog, and maybe each header+source header will have it's own revision number so you can't diff between two trees ?
I've seen that before, thats why I can smell it from here for example TI Stellaris "driver lib" is like that and it's a nightmare to maintain a project against it. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 12:27 PM |
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for example TI Stellaris "driver lib" is like that and it's a nightmare to maintain a project against it.
Then why not put each version you d/l into a version control system yourself? That will give you the changelog. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 12:40 PM |
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| As I said, they have "DrivetLib revision ZZZ etc" in each files, so, all files are different when you check them in. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 01:06 PM |
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I just looked at it again. The ZIP files are still broken ('\' instead of '/' in then pathes).
Typical Atmel, not listening. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 01:31 PM |
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I just reported the zip issue to Atmel (i don't think anyone did ).
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Posted: Jul 06, 2010 - 02:47 PM |
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Hi,
asf.atmel.no looks an interesting initiative. It is still a bit empty on xmega, but i am sure it will come.
It would be so nice to have faq, tips and tricks, extend examples about the use of events on the Xmega for instance.
And also to include linux support. For instance, the readme.txt installation for 8bits talks only about windows.
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