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 Posted: Aug 28, 2006 - 08:57 AM |
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japroach wrote:
As long as its a LDO it should be fine. Another reason is less bias current, a 7805 uses 10's of mA while a LDO is usually uA's.
and I believe the serial port can source 20mA of current.
Ah, that explains it then. If you source the the supply from the serial port, you are going to need an LDO.
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Posted: Aug 29, 2006 - 02:07 AM |
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I did a programmer for my atmega8 based on http://www.lancos.com/e2p/betterSTK200.gif and the programmer didnīt work. I got the "Device missing or unknow device (-24)" error.
My parallel port is ECP and I canīt figure out why this canīt work!
Maybe Iīm wrong with some capacitors.
Please somebody can give me some ideas? |
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Posted: Sep 02, 2006 - 02:41 PM |
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Goredaimon, pls read back in this thread; Lancos.com copied the suggested circuit as published here, and did not look back. Some components were changed to cope with different types of parallel ports
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Posted: Sep 17, 2006 - 09:30 PM |
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I'm part way into designing my board to replace my STK200.
Here's a sample of my board so far. It still needs to be double checked for accuracy. |
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Posted: Sep 17, 2006 - 09:44 PM |
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Pwillard, I had a quick look at the board: 33 pF should be 330 pF ( 3 times )
I'm missing 1k from Gnd to shield of the subD 25 pole connector.
Nice job.
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Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 10:37 PM |
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Goredaimon, pls read back in this thread; Lancos.com copied the suggested circuit as published here, and did not look back. Some components were changed to cope with different types of parallel ports
Plons
Plons, where I can find a great circuit for AVR ATMEGA programming? Do you know where my project lacks? |
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Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 12:52 AM |
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Plons, where I can find a great circuit for AVR ATMEGA programming? Do you know where my project lacks?
Please be more specific
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Posted: Jan 09, 2007 - 12:14 AM |
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Hi, I think that I have same problem as Goredaimon, and I will be very thankfull if you wrote me exactly which schematic would I to use, because I'm misoriented in it.
Thank you very much, and please excuse my bad english  |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2007 - 12:56 AM |
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I will be very thankfull if you wrote me exactly which schematic
How about reading this thread first, and then ask a specific question if something is unclear.
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Posted: Jan 15, 2007 - 06:24 PM |
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Hi Plons... it's sounds easy "read this thread first"... but my english skills is not enought to understand everything about these technical problems... but I keep trying ... I decided to make version from cb951303 (posted Aug 09, 2006 - 09:52 PM) and I believe that it will be okey.
If you want, I post there my circuit board design when it will be done.
see you soon |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2007 - 10:55 PM |
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I'd like to report about successful dongle building.
Schematics is like pwillard posted Sep 17, 2006 - 10:30 PM with Plons notes posted Sep 17, 2006 - 10:44 PM.
Works fine with my laptop through 1.8 shielded cable from laptop to dongle and ~30cm cable from dongle to test board.
BIG THANKS to everyone, who helped newbies like me to build nice dongle |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 06:05 AM |
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i'm totally confused. i built one pppd using a 74ls245. initially it did work but now its not working. i'm a newbie and am totally confused.i'm unable debug my pppd. so i'm planning to build a new one.but here too there are lots of schematics and am not sure which to build.
any suggestions.
am using cv avr for programming and pony prog to write the program. which are the fuse bits needed to be programmed for a 4MHz crystal,using pony prog.  |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 06:08 AM |
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my mc is an ATmega16L.
also can anyone suggest how to connect and program a wheel encoder.
plz reply quickly.
my parallel port seems to be ok and is set at ecp. |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 12:59 PM |
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| just build the improved_pppd_mod_march_4_2006 it works best on my computers (32 bit ones). |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 03:18 PM |
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| sarvoavr wrote:
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i'm totally confused. i built one pppd using a 74ls245
And what if you use the 74HC244 like it says in the schematic ? |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2007 - 03:08 PM |
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| i did build the even better schematic and that too isn't working. |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2007 - 03:24 PM |
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and were you using 74HC244?
It WILL work! where did you connect the RC filters? they must be before the wires to the AVR not after; must be between AVR and 74HC244. |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2007 - 06:31 PM |
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am using cv avr for programming and pony prog to write the program. which are the fuse bits needed to be programmed for a 4MHz crystal,using pony prog. Confused
Have you attempted to use cvavr's inbuilt programming interface which supports the stk200/300/500 lpt/serial programmers and many more ,this will give you a better picture of fuse settings etc etc.
Good Luck
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Posted: Mar 18, 2007 - 03:51 PM |
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Well, my cable is one of the basic ones.
As you can see, the resistors are rather high. This puts a low limit on the programming speed, but adds a lot in protection. I also dimensioned them in order to tolerate an AVR powered at levels as low as 3.3V and, in fact, I do a lot of programming of AVR's powered as low as 2.4V. All lines have resistors for protection.
My latest addition was the capacitor, which provides top reliability as already described in this thread.
The cable as it is in the schematics currently provides me total reliability, although it programs slowly (I'm using around 512bytes/s). Looking at the wave in the scope I would say it could be used up to ~200Kbit/s.
The cable is a DB25 conector and 60cm of flat ribbon-cable.
I hot-plug the cable PC all the time, but since it has big resistors and is totally passive, I guess no big problems... |
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Posted: May 01, 2007 - 01:32 PM |
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Hello folks,
I've also built last version of the improved PPPD (with 330 Ohm-330pF RC filter), it works great for me! For anyone interested, I am attaching the Eagle .brd file (this extension being not allowed, you'll have to rename attached file), comments are welcome since this is the first time I use Eagle. I've added an extra LED to monitor the programmer activity. The only thing missing on the board is the 1k resistor from Gnd to shield of the subD 25 pole connector.
aleks
Plons wrote:
Phil, if I understand you correctly, you built the one with the extra transistor ?!
Good to hear that it works. Thanks for letting it know.
Being a newbie, you'll encounter more newbie-problems. Don't be alarmed .... it's SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) ... it's part of the game.
Happy computing you both
Plons
(building a new programmer based on a Butterfly and Dean's ButtLoad)
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